Re: SEU and V7R1.

[Vernon Hamberg <vhamberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Raul

I guess I don't think IBM will go back. However, they do have a "new" 
product, Application Management Toolset. There was an announcement of 
this in April 24, 2012 - here is part of the description.

*IBM Rational Application Management Toolset for i*

To meet a common need of IBM i system administrators and advanced users, 
this new offering features simple, per-processor licensing at a price 
every company can afford.

IBM Rational Application Management Toolset for i provides IBM i system 
administrators and other advanced users with a lightweight set of tools 
for the common tasks of working with library file system objects and 
scripting with Command Language (CL).

Functionally, Application Management Toolset for i is a subset of the 
venerable Application Development Toolset (ADTS), which is sold as part 
of WebSphere Development Studio for i 6.1 or as part of Rational 
Development Studio for i 7.1. Two of the key components of ADTS are 
Programming Development Manager, commonly known as PDM, and Source Entry 
Utility, commonly known as SEU.


Now I don't know if THIS version will support the new stuff in CL. I do 
know that it will not support editing RPG of any type.

This does show that IBM are listening to users. And that they will 
probably not change the direction as to languages other than CL.

Here's a link to the announcement -

http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?htmlfid=897/ENUS212-114&infotype=AN&subtype=CA&appname=wwwsearch

That's all I know - everything CAN change, of course.

Vern


On 6/18/2013 7:49 AM, Raul A. Jager W. wrote:
> There used to be a "long-established policy" about charging extra for
> interactive capability, it is gonne in the newer models.  I think IBM
> will revert the SEU policy.
>
> Vernon Hamberg wrote:
>
> > Alan
> >
> > If you have to use SEU, you can ignore the syntax errors when you exit
> > SEU. The compiler still knows about the new stuff.
> >
> > As someone else said, this is a long-established policy - hey, when did
> > 6.1 come out?
> >
> > HTH
> > Vern
> >
> > On 6/17/2013 5:48 PM, Alan Campin wrote:
> >   
> >
> > > I can't believe this has not come up before. Maybe I am blind.
> > >
> > > Looking at the articles on the new V7R1 features that Kurt sent out I see
> > > this gem!
> > >
> > > Here's what's really interesting: SEU's syntax checking has been frozen at
> > > the 6.1 level! That means that SEU will not recognize any of the 7.1
> > > enhancements and will detect these new features as errors.
> > >
> > > This is a disaster!
> > >
> > > Both my current company and the previous company have refused to buy the
> > > RDI tools and at $1,660 bucks I am not too surprised! Unless you work in a
> > > shop where they will spend the $1700 bucks per developer plus maintenance
> > > you are effectively locked out of using V7R1 features unless we turn off
> > > syntax checking. A big reduction in productivity.
> > >
> > > Anybody know of any efforts to get checking turned back on in V7R1?
> > >     
> >