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Joe, I can respect your compassion for "older coders who don't really want to learn new things". But, I don't see how you can escape rapid change with technology the way it is today. I just need you to clarify this for me; I don't see how an "older coder..." would have an easier time learning your "extended format" vs. /Free. They seem to be the same amount of learning, IMO. I would have to go to a RedBook or manual, for both of them, to get the IBM syntax definition. Since you are the MOVE evangelist why don't you write (and test) a sub proc called move() and distribute it to us all so we can be done with that discussion. I am trying to think of the last time I've needed move since I started /free. . . I don't think I have. IMO, the _only_ valid argument you have with MOVE is that it would be a lot easier to do mass conversions of code. Aaron Bartell
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