RE: ILE philosophy -- RPG400-L

The V5R2 announcement letter (202-130) for IBM Websphere Development Studio
did contain a Statement of Direction that IBM plans to discontinue these
two features in the next release after OS/400 V5R2.  It also refers the
reader to http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/enable/tools/iseries/documents/ for
a white paper "A Case for Source Control Management" for further
information.

Bruce




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Didn't I read somewhere these were going away?  Maybe in favor of PC based
tools?

> -----Original Message-----
> From:            John Taylor [SMTP:lists@studioworks-tech.com]
> Sent:            Friday, September 20, 2002 12:35 PM
> To:        rpg400-l@midrange.com
> Subject:         Re: ILE philosophy
>
> I've stayed out of this so far, but I see that no one else is going to
> mention it, so here it goes....
>
> IBM _has_ provided the management tool(s) which you're asking for. There
> are
> two optional (read chargeable) features of the Application Development
> Toolset called:
>
> 1) Application Development Manager/400.
> 2) Application Dictionary Services/400
>
> I don't use the Development Manager because I find I can manage just fine
> with the base tools for ILE, but I have used the Dictionary Services for
> years now, and have found that option to be well worth the extra charge.
>
> The following links are pretty old, but should get you started:
>
> http://www-3.ibm.com/software/ad/as400/library/adm42.html
> http://www-3.ibm.com/software/ad/as400/library/ads42.html
>
>
> Regards,
>
> John Taylor
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Rich" <james@eaerich.com>
> To: <rpg400-l@midrange.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 10:19 AM
> Subject: RE: ILE philosophy
>
>
> > On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Scott Mildenberger wrote:
> >
> > > >   A "real" integrated MAKE tool is a no-brainer as a requirement.
I
> > > > believe that this is *one* of the reasons that it's taken a
> > > > long time for
> > > > ILE to catch on - it's a more difficult environment to
> > > > manage, but I don't
> > > > think that it has to be that way.
> > >
> > > I don't miss a MAKE tool that much.  I can only think that it would
be
> real
> > > useful if you bind modules by copy.  Since I don't advocate that
> approach I
> > > don't see much need for a MAKE tool.
> >
> > The real power of make is not just compiling things, it is recognizing
> > dependencies and building only those things that need to be built.
> > Programs rely on data files, printer files, screen files, service
> > programs, etc.  If you change a printer file you need to recompile the
> > associated program(s) to avoid a level check.  make tracks this for
you.
> > Instead of using CRTPRTF you would use make.  make would compile the
> > printer file and then automatically recompile those programs that
depend
> > on the printer file.  A CL program just isn't the same thing.
> >
> > James Rich
> >
>
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