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>> I just think if you really want know what we want most, it would make more since to have us rank the items and you apply your weighting those results. Seth, and others who have raised similar issues. Since I was involved in the first use of this technique in Toronto (first to my knowledge anyway - we used it first on COBOL) I thought I'd throw in my 5 cents. The method you describe is the one that was used for years within the Toronto development process. The reason it was changed to the "Shopping List" approach was that frankly it didn't work. It was common for the items that came to the top of the list to exceed the development capacity for the release. Often there was no clear "winner" and (since you couldn't do more development than you had the $ for) there was no way to determine which feature was the most valuable to the greatest number of people. The Shopping List changed that because it forces people to recognize that there is a cost to things and that they need to balance need and resource. You get a much clearer prioritization which also helps in the event that something turns out to be cheaper than expected (free-form is probably a good example) or when resource is cut and you need to decide what drops out of plan. If I were George and Co, there is one change I think I would experiment with. That is to have everyone vote twice. Once with their personal choices, and a second vote for those features that they think would be the most benefit to the RPG community at large. The differences in weighting could be both informative and useful. One reason for this is that I think currently people vote differently. Personally I always try to vote based on my view of the community benefit - not my own favorites. Why? Because I might tend to vote for (for example) full null support. However, frankly I believe this would be a waste of development $s. Only a fraction of the RPG community even use embedded SQL. In that group only a tiny percentage know about, let alone use, null support. The current support may not be perfect, but it is usable - and yet it is hardly used. IMO upping the support level would have minimal impact to the usage level and therefore to the community as a whole. As indicated by some postings to this list, some have voted for this support - would they have voted that way for the community benefit? Jon Paris Partner400
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