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There is little new technology that we do not incorporate here.  We use:
ILE, service programs, SQL, net.data, Domino, Java for the web, Citrix,
ftp, visual basic and the list goes on.  I've met a little resistance in
RPG-CGI but I feel that if I snuck in some good examples, it would fly.
The last time the VP of IS went to COMMON I ended up with handout from
MI400 on my desk.  At which point I reminded him I know where he lives.
We've hired Jon Paris to come and teach RPGILE.  Later we hired him to
teach CODE/400.  We pretty much rotate and send 2 people to COMMON.  I am
going to the IBM Tech conference next month.  (Hey Al, I know it conflicts
but a brother will be in town for the Oracle conference and my ailing
parents live not far and have yet to meet their new granddaughter.)

Rob Berendt
--
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin




"Dan Bale" <dbale@samsa.com>
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05/24/2002 08:07 AM
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In the hope that I am not opening another can of worms... <g>

I think I can say that I understand the business's point of view from the
experience you speak of.  How do you keep a business running if your one
expert leaves and there's no documentation?

Unfortunately, in my experience and IMHO, most businesses are too
short-sighted to see the long-term benefit in allowing their own staff to
try new things on a limited basis for trial runs, and then allow, at a
minimum, cross training between staff members.  Certainly, one does not
write a mission-critical application using UIM (and I hope that wasn't the
case with you) when only one person has the required expertise.  (UIM?!?!?
Was that the technology-du-jour of the late 80's?  Uughhh!)

I infer that you no longer manage other programmers.  Now that you report
to
a manager, and knowing your penchant for the leading edge stuff, do you
find
that you have to make a case for using "new technolgy"?  Or is Dekko the
place all of us bleeding edgers should be sending our resume to?  <g>

- Dan Bale
(I am *NOT* "Dale"
http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l/200105/msg00281.html )
SAMSA, Inc.
989-790-0507
DBale@SAMSA.com <mailto:DBale@SAMSA.com>
  Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
  (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)

-----Original Message-----
From: rpg400-l-admin@midrange.com [mailto:rpg400-l-admin@midrange.com]On
Behalf Of rob@dekko.com
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 8:48 AM
To: rpg400-l@midrange.com
Subject: RE: Difference bet. Primary and Full procedural file.

Dan, and others,

I confess that when I managed people I sometimes had this 'Mack truck', or
for our friend Jenny from the UK 'Lorrie' syndrome.  I had a developer
pushing UIM panels that I tried my darnedest to discourage.  He did it
anyway.  After he left it was unpleasant to work with.  And I had to work
on it once when he was out for a few days and a strange problem occurred.
He admitted that it only happens randomly and he was never able to track
it down and he wished me the best of luck.

Rob Berendt

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