RE: Difference bet. Primary and Full procedural file.

["Dan Bale" <dbale@xxxxxxxxx>]

<can of worms opened and dumped...>

Fer cryin' out loud!  Jeez, marketing dweebs are the WORST types to manage
an IT department.  "You want an application to
__fill-in-the-blank-some-pie-in-the-sky-project__?  Sure, we can do that!
You want it next week?  Sure, no problem-o!"  IME, marketing dweebs don't
know the word "no", or the phrase "let me find out if this is possible",
only "Yes, yes, yes!"

I once worked for an marketing/ad agency.  What a nightmare.  Marketing
types promising the world to high-falutin' clients, then coming to us
telling (NOTE: *not* asking) us what needs to be done and when it will be
ready.

In general, I agree with Nelson, as long as its not a marketing dweeb!  Bean
counters are iffy, too.  If you have a bean counter for a manager, s/he
really has to have the long-term view and understand that IT is an asset to
the company and not a necessary expense.

- Dan Bale
(I am *NOT* "Dale"
http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l/200105/msg00281.html )
SAMSA, Inc.
989-790-0507
DBale@SAMSA.com <mailto:DBale@SAMSA.com>
  Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
  (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)

-----Original Message-----
From: rpg400-l-admin@midrange.com [mailto:rpg400-l-admin@midrange.com]On
Behalf Of alan shore
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 9:41 AM
To: rpg400-l@midrange.com
Subject: RE: Difference bet. Primary and Full procedural file.


Boy do I really disagree with you there. We just had a guy with a marketing
background. His personnel and organizational skills were fantastic, and
everyone really liked him as a person, but his technical knowledge (or lack
thereof) really hurt us badly. He would make decisions with users that when
he came back to inform us of the decisions, in most cases, we had to argue
against him, before he saw the light, and then had to return to the user
with the rectified plan. This made this very intelligent guy look a real
scmuck. He is now back in marketing, doing really good, and we have a new
manager, technically  knowledgable, but as a manager, leaves A LOT to be
desired.