RE: PDM/SEU -- RPG400-L

Ok, it took a while to learn those, but I had to and it was all part and
parcel of learning on the S/38 (admittedly, even now I can't totally get the
hang of RLU!).  I agree that any tool is going to take a while to become
proficient.

I've just tried a test with CODE (as it's been some months since I last
tried it).  One minute into trying to open a small source member for editing
and I get a stack error and it all goes belly up.  Trying a little VRPG
fared better.  At least I could get into the editor.  Trying some prompting,
an unwieldy prompt box comes up, but it is clear.

Maybe one day there will be a version that is easy to use and integrates
seamlessly into OS/400, but for IBM to deliver that, I think pigs will fly
first!

Make no mistake, I do think that a Pc tool for editing will in the long term
be better, but it must be reliable and easy to use.

So, here's my wish list and if implemented, you never know, I might fork out
on a real copy.
- Make the prompting simpler (i.e. don't take up half the screen with a
prompt box.  In SEU, you can tell it to take two lines, why not in CODE?)
- Line commands in CODE are kludgy at best, they sometimes work but most of
the time they are infuriating!
- Make the comms layer to the 400 reliable and work at a reasonable speed
- Include the type ahead auto complete gizmos that Microsoft include so
easily in their products
- Give a seamless PDM like interface that supports exits as PDM does (maybe
run them on the 400 or on the PC)
- Ability to automatically synchronize source on the PC and 400.  So that if
someone make a change on the 400, I can still edit it on the PC without
having to re-download it.

So, IBM if you're listening, what are you doing to improve things????

...Adam _\\//
SLIC systems Ltd
www.slic-systems.com



 -----Original Message-----
From:   owner-rpg400-l@midrange.com [mailto:owner-rpg400-l@midrange.com]  On
Behalf Of Paul Tuohy
Sent:   01 June 2000 20:20
To:     RPG400-L@midrange.com
Subject:        Re: PDM/SEU



Adam White wrote:

> <snip>
>  The fact that it takes two days to learn (how long did it take you to
learn
> SEU?)

 <snip>

Sorry Adam, but you are not comparing like with like. How long did it take
you to
learn SEU, SDA, RLU, PDM, and STRDBG? Hence the two day course.

I recently introduced Code/400 in the RPG courses (III and IV). I give a
brief
demonstration of it (10 mins) at the start of the course and tell students
that
they can use it if they wish. They are usually up and running with little
difficulty.

Paul Tuohy


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