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I said the very same thing to Wayne Madden, open source the RPG compiler. This reminds me of something I thought while, reading Bob Tiptons address and his rebuttal to IBM's rebuttal to his comments (whew that is a mouth full). I don't agree with Mr. Tipton on a few points, one point is that it is not a programmers job to market a platform. I do think that it is our job to ensure that the platform is marketable. Programmers can take steps to make the AS/400 more attractive to a larger number of potential customers. Like Hans said once before, providing frameworks on which to build e-commerce apps is perhaps the best thing we can do to ensure that RPG and the AS/400 are attractive. We need to focus, not on the obvious incompetence with IBM has handled the marketing of the box, but instead on what we as a community can do to enhance the marketability of the AS/400. Author of email just had a brain dump. (C I R F) Reply . . . : _____________________________________________________________ "Stone, Brad V (TC)" wrote: > > Partly, but I see the real plan is because they really can't charge (as > much) for RPG. They can for Net.Data, Websphere, etc. And the Java push is > still alive and kicking... trying to get folks off of RPG. > > We'll show em! They did too good of a job with RPG for us to disband it. > If they want to get rid of it, then at least be "hip" and make the RPG > compiler open source. :) > > Yes, IBM, that was a compliment on a job well done with RPG. Keep up the > good work. > > Brad > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: L. S. Russell [mailto:leslier@datrek.com] > > Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2000 7:18 AM > > To: RPG400-L@midrange.com > > Subject: Re: Quick survey - how well structured are your RPG apps? > > > > > > If so it is just another step in IBMs systematic war against > > the AS/400. > > > > "Stone, Brad V (TC)" wrote: > > > > > > Me thinks IBM wants eRPG to go away! ;) > > > > > > #1 MC Best seller in MArch, double that of #2 in sales. > > (ouch, my arm!) > > > > > > Brad > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: boldt@ca.ibm.com [mailto:boldt@ca.ibm.com] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 11:41 AM > > > > To: RPG400-L@midrange.com > > > > Subject: Quick survey - how well structured are your RPG apps? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Greetings RPG fans! Would you mind answering a few quick > > > > questions and replying directly to me at email:boldt@ca.ibm.com? > > > > I'm just looking for a rough idea, so please don't spend too > > > > much time answering. (Replies will, of course, be kept > > > > confidential!) > > > > > > > > 1) On a scale of 1 to 5, how well structured are your RPG apps? > > > > (where 1 is perfect user-interface/business logic separation; > > > > 3 is "half my programs/modules are pure business logic with > > > > no display files"; and 5 is "they're a mess!") > > > > > > > > 2) Do you expect that someday you may have to put a web-based > > > > user-interface on one or more of these applications? > > > > > > > > Thanks! Hans > > > > > > > > Hans Boldt, ILE RPG Development, IBM Toronto Lab, boldt@ca.ibm.com > > > > > > > > > > > > +--- > > > > | This is the RPG/400 Mailing List! > > > > | To submit a new message, send your mail to > > RPG400-L@midrange.com. > > > > | To subscribe to this list send email to > > RPG400-L-SUB@midrange.com. > > > > | To unsubscribe from this list send email to > > > > RPG400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. > > > > | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: > > > > david@midrange.com > > > > +--- > > > > > > > +--- > > > | This is the RPG/400 Mailing List! > > > | To submit a new message, send your mail to RPG400-L@midrange.com. > > > | To subscribe to this list send email to RPG400-L-SUB@midrange.com. > > > | To unsubscribe from this list send email to > > RPG400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. > > > | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: > > david@midrange.com > > > +--- > > > > -- > > L. S. Russell Programmer/Analyst > > Datrek Professional Bags, Inc. > > 2413 Industrial Drive > > Springfield, TN. 37172 > > mailto:leslier@datrek.com > > http://www.datrek.com > > -- > > +--- > > | This is the RPG/400 Mailing List! > > | To submit a new message, send your mail to RPG400-L@midrange.com. > > | To subscribe to this list send email to RPG400-L-SUB@midrange.com. > > | To unsubscribe from this list send email to > > RPG400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. > > | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: > > david@midrange.com > > +--- > > > +--- > | This is the RPG/400 Mailing List! > | To submit a new message, send your mail to RPG400-L@midrange.com. > | To subscribe to this list send email to RPG400-L-SUB@midrange.com. > | To unsubscribe from this list send email to RPG400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. > | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com > +--- -- L. S. 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