Dave, One of my points was that several features in RPG IV need fixing. You've mentioned a few in your remarks. Thanks! >>-----Original Message----- >>From: email@example.com >>[mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]On >>Behalf Of David Morris >>Sent: Friday, July 30, 1999 12:12 PM >>To: RPG400-L@midrange.com >>Subject: Re: RPG IV and CF-spec "keep it IBM" >> >> >>Bob, >> >>First, if you don't vote, on what grounds can you >>complain? You have made >>some assumptions which seem to be contradicted. Who says >>we can't have >>both? Based on the survey made (which I assume you are >>referring to) $100 >>was required for free format RPGIV. According to what I >>have read, the >>implementation of this feature took less time than >>expected. I don't remember >>what I spent, but it was considerably less than the allotted $100. >> >>I want it all, CF specs are a nice to have and I will use >>them if available. >>I just hope they do what I need most, first. If I had my >>way, the Rochester >>people and Toronto people would get together and write a >>few mixed >>language applications that passed parameters. When they >>were creating >>their applications, I would have them address the >>incompatibilities >>between the calling conventions for each language. When >>these tasks >>were done, I would have a party and declare that ILE >>supported integrated >>applications. >> >>After the party I would have the Rochester people get >>operational descriptor >>support to work so that I could write what I need today >>followed by some of the >>obviously needed CL enhancements. In the mean time I >>would ask the >>Toronto people to work on supporting variable type >>parameters followed >>by support for aliased file names and direct support for >>dynamically sized >>arrays. Then I would have a party and declare that I had >>everything I needed >>to work effectively. >> >>David Morris >> >>>>> "Bob Cozzi" <email@example.com> 07/29/99 09:18PM >>> >>Geeze! >> >>How about we ask Rochester to add database I/O support to >>CL? Would that >>make all the CF-spec "nuts" happy? I mean come on! Even >>John Carr (who >>originally suggested "CF") doesn't think it is a >>necessary feature. >> >>IBM Toronto has indicated that "most" people want the >>"CF-spec". However, I >>wonder if it is "most" people, or just the majority of >>the people that >>answered their question. After all, if you DON'T want it >>or DON'T care about >>it, why bother telling Toronto? I mean, "most" people >>that answer the >>question are going to want the CF spec. >> >>Don't get me wrong, I'm prefer natural expression syntax than the >>limitations that traditional RPGII style code provides. >>But I just don't see >>how supporting: >> >>RPGIII >>RPG IV >> and >>RPG IV with CF-spec >> >>is going to encourage IT Managers to supporting moving to RPG IV. >> >>So I ask you, if you do NOT care if the CF-spec every >>sees the light of day, >>or DON'T want the CF-spec, to voice your opinion now. >>I feel we need an architecture for RPG. We need many >>poorly designed >>features corrected, we need consistent designs and >>several new features >>before we effectively turn RPG IV into CL II. >> >>Let me know what you think. >> >> >>Bob Cozzi >> >>http://www.RPGIV.com >> >>+--- >>| This is the RPG/400 Mailing List! >>| To submit a new message, send your mail to >>RPG400-L@midrange.com. >>| To subscribe to this list send email to >>RPG400-L-SUB@midrange.com. >>| To unsubscribe from this list send email to >>RPG400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. >>| Questions should be directed to the list >>owner/operator: firstname.lastname@example.org >>+---END >> >> +--- | This is the RPG/400 Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to RPG400-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to RPG400-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to RPG400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: email@example.com +---END
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