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Bob, First, if you don't vote, on what grounds can you complain? You have made some assumptions which seem to be contradicted. Who says we can't have both? Based on the survey made (which I assume you are referring to) $100 was required for free format RPGIV. According to what I have read, the implementation of this feature took less time than expected. I don't remember what I spent, but it was considerably less than the allotted $100. I want it all, CF specs are a nice to have and I will use them if available. I just hope they do what I need most, first. If I had my way, the Rochester people and Toronto people would get together and write a few mixed language applications that passed parameters. When they were creating their applications, I would have them address the incompatibilities between the calling conventions for each language. When these tasks were done, I would have a party and declare that ILE supported integrated applications. After the party I would have the Rochester people get operational descriptor support to work so that I could write what I need today followed by some of the obviously needed CL enhancements. In the mean time I would ask the Toronto people to work on supporting variable type parameters followed by support for aliased file names and direct support for dynamically sized arrays. Then I would have a party and declare that I had everything I needed to work effectively. David Morris >>> "Bob Cozzi" <cozzi@rpgiv.com> 07/29/99 09:18PM >>> Geeze! How about we ask Rochester to add database I/O support to CL? Would that make all the CF-spec "nuts" happy? I mean come on! Even John Carr (who originally suggested "CF") doesn't think it is a necessary feature. IBM Toronto has indicated that "most" people want the "CF-spec". However, I wonder if it is "most" people, or just the majority of the people that answered their question. After all, if you DON'T want it or DON'T care about it, why bother telling Toronto? I mean, "most" people that answer the question are going to want the CF spec. Don't get me wrong, I'm prefer natural expression syntax than the limitations that traditional RPGII style code provides. But I just don't see how supporting: RPGIII RPG IV and RPG IV with CF-spec is going to encourage IT Managers to supporting moving to RPG IV. So I ask you, if you do NOT care if the CF-spec every sees the light of day, or DON'T want the CF-spec, to voice your opinion now. I feel we need an architecture for RPG. We need many poorly designed features corrected, we need consistent designs and several new features before we effectively turn RPG IV into CL II. Let me know what you think. Bob Cozzi http://www.RPGIV.com +--- | This is the RPG/400 Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to RPG400-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to RPG400-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to RPG400-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---END
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