Re: CL/REXX Was: valid 5250 character set

[Jim Oberholtzer <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Rob:

I'm not opposed to RPG in and of itself, I use it.  But RPG requires yet
another skill set, and frankly, most admin folks don't know RPG nor do they
want to.  Even suggesting Python to them is equivalent to asking them to
dance with snakes.  You have development skills beyond many if not most
admin folks, so suggestions RPG and/or SQL stored procedures, while
worthwhile and would solve the problem, won't work in most cases.  Where
the Admin is really a developer that's forced to do the admin, that
individual does not want to spend their precious development time on
mundane (to them) admin tasks, so they won't do it.

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Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 9:53 AM Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> It's probably easier to bury the commands you wanted to do in CL into RPG
> instead of trying to shoehorn SQL into CL by using CLI?
> Or if you don't like RPG then start using Stored Procedure Language as
> your new command language?
>
> Is ILE dead?
>
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> Yikes, take something simple and make it complicated, have you ever really
> looked at the CLI?
> First off all the examples are in C, so unless you understand C pretty
> well, enough said.
>
> All I really want is cursor support, and the ability to send/receive
> variables in CL from open source.  Knowing that's not likely to happen
> as an IBM supplied update to CL, we have to find other methods of returning
> a result set to CL.  Today we write to a temporary table then read the
> table sequentially in CL.  Or as I suggested before, use a user space, or
> other object.  That's up to the ingenuity of the developer.  The trick is
> to make it simple enough to maintain and for others to use, and be
> sufficiently robust enough to cover almost all the use cases.
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