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Re: HMC V9SP1

My own take on it is there are so many different panels used IBM did an
awful job of testing. I use Firefox for HMCs so it should not be the
browser, but it could be.

I just see generalized user interface issues no matter what part of the HMC
I get into.

--
Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 4:05 PM Steinmetz, Paul <PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Are these "problems" with the new HMC only if your using VIOS.
If LPARS are all NON-VIOS, and I'm strictly creating HMC profiles with
virtual adapters, will I have any issues or see any differences.

Paul


-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Roberto José Etcheverry Romero
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 4:10 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: HMC V9SP1

The problem, I think, lies with the change of paradigm they are trying to
force on the users. They don't want us configuring the virtual adapters,
mapping them to the LPARs or otherwise mucking around with the internals
like we have been doing. They want us to use the GUI to add vfc, vscsi, LUN
mappings and just leave the HMC to DLPAR the adapters and make it "just
work" even if the result ends up being inconsistent (I created 2 vfc
mappings on 2 VIOS and on the first one the first adapter got mapped to
fcs0, on the second the first adapter got mapped to fcs1!)
I've been forced to use the GUI to be able to keep creating the adapters in
the order I want to keep them symmetrical between servers.
I don't think that's going to change no matter how many RFE we create.

Roberto

On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 5:18 PM Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Jim,

I was wondering about that.
Please do so. Whilst it sucks to be you I am glad that someone is
insisting on the GUI as it needs to get figured out to ensure that it
does
actually work.
...
and perhaps enough RFE's get submitted to adopt the use of the GUI.
<extraneous comment deleted>


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From: "Jim Oberholtzer" <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx

Date: 11/29/2018 03:13 PM
Subject: Re: HMC V9SP1
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



One more thing, before Larry responds with "command line, use it, love
it". I have to document this for the customer who will not use the
command
line, so GUI is it.

--
Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 1:53 PM Jim Oberholtzer
<midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

I hate it when I fat finger....

So continuing:

Build the VIOS, all four of 'em, no sweat. Update VIOS also very easy.
Now try to build the IBM i partitions. Managing the profile. Has IBM
even bothered to Alpha test this crap?
Windows jump around and size themselves so not all the data fits. Fix
the
window size and then when you put the cursor on it and click to gain
focus,
bam, it resizes again.
Error messages that for about 2 seconds are valid until you fill in the
second WWPN will not go away, you have to bail out of the dialog and
come
back in to clear.
Things do not save when they should. (even when the explicit "save"
button is pushed.

What would have been done in about 45 minutes in the old interface has
now
taken nearly six hours because this idiotic interface does not work
properly. And that's with IBM i on a SAN. I'd hate to think what it
looks
like with IBM i hosting IBM i. I'm going to find out soon since I'll
be
installing one of those next week.

Hey IBM. Test the )(*&(^&%*&$&$&$%&*() HMC code BEFORE you ship it.
Better yet, give me back the old interface that A) worked, B) was not
confusing as hell, and C) was actually productive......

---
Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 1:42 PM Jim Oberholtzer <
midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

So brand spanken new HMCs show up with the P9. OK, now I have to use
the
HMC V9 now even though I really hate the new interface. So, I have
to
configure 4 VIOS partitions, and 6 IBM i partitions. Next get the
virtual
fiber connections set up so the partitions can see the SAN.

Build the VIOS no sweat, load and update the


Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


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