Diego,
All the things you pointed out are true. That said, sometimes when all you're doing is moving data between to partitions, or inside your firewall, all you need is a dumb file transfer.
Don't use the Ferrari to go up the drive to get the mail, when your feet work just fine.....
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Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects
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From: MIDRANGE-L <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Diego Kesselman
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 7:38 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Alternative to WINSCP
I know IBM i is really useful because of SITE & QUOTE commands, besides you can access members on PFs, but:
* FTP is unsecure by default
*No traffic throttling
* If you perform a TCP trace you can see user/password and data
* Sometimes you experience data transformation issues
* No warranty delivery
*No compression
* Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera
I recommend to turn FTP off, use SFTP or SCP with CHROOT and transfer data from ASCII "copies" on IFS (inside CHRooted environment).
With SFTP you know when transfer was ended abnormally so you can retry or launch any action, your data is encrypted, you can compress, and you can choose authentication mechanism between user/password and user/certificate (with 3rd party products you can even use 2FA)
El 30 oct. 2018 6:23 AM, "Jim Oberholtzer" <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
escribió:
What made you think it would? While FTP is amazingly useful, it is also designed to be a dumb application, meaning it takes files from one place and puts it in another. Remember when it was developed at DARPA it's only use was to move text documents between scientists. Over time we've added options that are very useful and has made FTP less dumb but, in the end,, it's still just "File Transfer Protocol", an intentionally dumb application.
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Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects
-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Rob Berendt
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 6:33 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Alternative to WINSCP
Apparently IBM's implementation of ftp server does not support any of the options on the ls command.
https://www.tecmint.com/15-basic-ls-command-examples-in-linux/
Rob Berendt
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IBM Certified System Administrator - IBM i 6.1 Group Dekko Dept 1600 Mail to: 2505 Dekko Drive
Garrett, IN 46738
Ship to: Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
http://www.dekko.com
From: "Don Brown" <DBrown@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 10/29/2018 05:57 PM
Subject: Re: Alternative to WINSCP
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Ok here are the results Rob.
From Command prompt run as administrator and ftp to the IBMi
ls does not chow dates so I used dir.
File date shows correctly -
MSDDCB 7707 05/10/18 13:20:19 *STMF bookingDetails.php
<<=====Correct
From 5250 session with FTP
MSDDCB 7707 05/10/18 13:20:19 *STMF bookingDetails.php
<<=====Correct
From WinSCP without the site listfmt 1 added to the log in script
bookingDetails.php 8KB 10/05/2018 1:20 PM
<<======Incorrect
From WinSCP with the site listfmt 1 added to the log in script
bookingDetails.php 8KB 5/10/2018 1:20 PM
<<======Correct
Don Brown
From: "Rob Berendt" <rob@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion"
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 29/10/2018 09:24 PM
Subject: Re: Alternative to WINSCP
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Let's remove all non IBM i interference.
Try a ftp session from 5250 to itself.
Try the ls command there. See if the dates are hokey. If they are, open
a ticket with IBM.
?
No mlsd subcommand listed.
mlsd
Subcommand 'mlsd' not valid.
For a list of available FTP subcommands, enter subcommand HELP.
Rob Berendt
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IBM Certified System Administrator - IBM i 6.1
Group Dekko
Dept 1600
Mail to: 2505 Dekko Drive
Garrett, IN 46738
Ship to: Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
http://www.dekko.com
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