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True, doesn't mean I can't fake it......


--
Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects


-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob
Berendt
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 3:06 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Backup media

and I thought I heard you tested close to zero on the empathy scale...


Rob Berendt
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From: Jim Oberholtzer <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 12/18/2017 04:02 PM
Subject: RE: Backup media
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



Rob,

You have no idea how many times a year I see that. You just learn to
smile,
act compassionate, (before the guffaws come out I can do that....) and
tell
the user the system needs to be rebuilt from scratch and oh, by the way,
you're data may be gone forever.


--
Jim Oberholtzer
Agile Technology Architects


-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob
Berendt
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 2:57 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Backup media

Used the same one tape for every nightly backup? Good grief!

Back in my consulting life it was amazing that the time most often that a
system died was during backup. So, if you didn't rotate media, you were
toast.


Rob Berendt
--
IBM Certified System Administrator - IBM i 6.1 Group Dekko Dept 1600 Mail
to: 2505 Dekko Drive
Garrett, IN 46738
Ship to: Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
http://www.dekko.com





From: Holger Scherer <hs@xxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 12/18/2017 03:43 PM
Subject: Re: Backup media
Sent by: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>



Agree,
i currently work on a customers system which crashed. And they did not
change the DAT160 tape for daily backup for years :-/

-h

Am 18.12.2017 um 19:58 schrieb DrFranken <midrange@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:


Soon as you pick and acquire, DUP all your DAT160 tapes to the new
format. Do It Now. Trusting the DAT160 is bad and it will not work on any
new system so get those tapes migrated.


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