I believe the CUM has prerequisite marker for the TR.
I remember a ways back I was trying to apply the latest TR, and it would not apply until the CUM was applied.
Paul
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Rob,   I'm not sure what you're asking, however if the question is are the
TRs buried into cumulative at some point,  I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing not, maybe someone at IBM could enlighten us on that.  My sense of it is that a cumulative would become way to large if the TRs were buried into them.  That's why they are separate.  
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Jim,
I know that the MF9920# PTF's are the John the Baptist of the PTF world. 
They are available before the actual TR.  Is there a marker PTF which is different than SF99727 or MF9920#?  Something I can look up and see what cume first had the whole TR?
Rob Berendt
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From:   Jim Oberholtzer <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Rob, 
If a cumulative and TR come out together it is circumstances not a direct tie to one another.  The TRs generally require the latest cumulative, and I'm guessing IBM would release a cumulative at the same time, but they are not necessarily connected. 
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Subject: Re: Easiest PTF Upgrade Retrieval
There is no generic *TR on SNDPTFORD.  See WRKPTFGRP.
I wonder if a new cume coincides with each new TR?  If so, then ordering the cume should cover it.  I know they do a resave of the OS at each new TR.
Cumulative package C7283730 began shipping worldwide:  27 Oct 2017. 
Matches GA date for TR3
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=nas8N1022090
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=nas4SF98730&aid=1
MF99203:  10/27/2017    Cum Level...C7283730
MF99202:  03/17/2017    Cum Level...C7061730
MF99201:  11/11/2016    Cum Level...C6299730
C7283730:  7283=2017-10-10  Which is slightly off from "Cumulative package
C7283730 began shipping worldwide:  27 Oct 2017."
C7061730:  7061=2017-03-02
C6299730:  6299=2016-10-25
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=nas3MF99203
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=nas3MF99202
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=nas3MF99201
Rob Berendt
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