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On Sep 28, 2017, at 2:52 PM, Jack Woehr <jwoehr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I used QMGTOOL and it seems basically I should install the fixpack SF99362.
I see the extra BRMS fix SI64274 but it doesn't seem to be critical.
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Try the tool, but I've not. Looks promising though.
See also "recommended fixes" at
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=nas8N1021480
I saw at least one 7.1 BRMS ptf which is not on any group PTF.
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From: Jack Woehr <jwoehr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 09/28/2017 03:03 PM
Subject: Re: BRMS failure
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How do I remember them when I don't know what they are?
Is applying SF99362 going to require others?
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Jim Oberholtzer <
midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Remember any PTFs that are not in the group as found by the QMGTOOLs710
In order to get them all I'll order the group by PTF number and add the
other PTFs in the same box.
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From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Jack
Woehr
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 1:21 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: BRMS failure
Yes, thanks, I read this before and it *sounds* like my problem, only,
there
is not any contention, neither for drive nor tape.
Some fixes in SF99362 710 Backup Recovery Solutions - level 69SF99362
Backup Recovery Solutions - level 69 sound applicable.<PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>
I'm going to apply that PTF package tonight.
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 12:11 PM, Steinmetz, Paul
wrote:or
Jack,
I had a similar issue years back.
It was related to reservations.
Here's the summary from IBM BRMS development.
- When an operation needing a tape resource runs and needs a tape
drive the tape code will attempt to reserve a tape drive. If it cannot
get a reservation on it's first choice it will try again to reserve
another drive. It will do this repeatedly until it gets a reservation
untilis
all drive resources have been tried. Assuming a drive is found that
portavailable a 'reservation' is put on the tape drive resource. This
reservation exists on the tape drive itself and is assigned to a
specific adapter port by World Wide Port Name (WWPN). This
reservation will be persistent until the host releases the
reservation. If anything stops the host from releasing the reservation
the drive will remain reserved and can only be used by that specific
adapter.<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
- Once a drive is reserved and a tape needs to be mounted, tape code
will check to see if the tape is already mounted in another drive. If
the tape is mounted in another drive the system running the operation
needing a tape resource will attempt to reserve the tape drive that
the tape is mounted in. If it gets the reservation for a short period
of time the job will have caused two drives to be reserved. The first
drive will be released shortly, however if multiple jobs are starting
at the same time that need drives it is possible that each job could
reserve multiple drives for short periods of time and some job may not
be able to get a drive. Operations requiring more than one tape
resource such as DUPMEDBRM or DUPTAP can magnify this issue. Slightly
staggering job start times can reduce this possibility.
- Different types of errors (user, job, device) can cause a
reservation to be left hanging on a drive. Once this happens, only
the system using the adapter port with the proper WWPN will be able to
use the tape drive or release the reservation.
- Although it may not be common; changes to the fabric can make it
impossible for a system to release a reservation. For example:
Job Runs and TAP01 is reservedreservation...
Job ends abnormally and does not release reservation Fibre cable is
moved to a different adapter port At this point there is no way any
of the host systems can release this
Paul
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Jack Woehr
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 1:28 PM
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Subject: Re: BRMS failure
Trying that right now.
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Jim Oberholtzer <
midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I think Rob might be on to the PTFs. Strong suggestion:into Fix
Get the QMGTOOLS library from IBM (Google QMGTOOLS tools and it
will be the first on the list)
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=nas8N1011297
In that tool option 7 is the Save/Restore menu, then option 9
compares the PTFs on the system with the ones at IBM. It includes
PTFs that have not been put into a group yet. Provides a really
nice list to copy
Central with. I'd get them all.
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Of Rob Berendt
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 12:12 PM
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Subject: Re: BRMS failure
That's pretty definitive. And that is the most recent library and
drive firmware.
Cleaning lady doesn't come in at that time of the night, unplug the
tape library and plug in her vacuum cleaner, does she?
You might want to call IBM. Because, short of making sure that you
have the latest MF* ptf's to go along with the card supporting that
drive, ensuring the card is in the best slot for that, ensuring that
you're not dynamically moving the card from lpar-to-lpar to do
backups, and a few other things, it's getting tricky.
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From: Jack Woehr <jwoehr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
updated?midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: 09/28/2017 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: BRMS failure
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The drives are new: we replaced them Tuesday. They have the latest
firmware, I checked.
I flashed the latest library firmware right after that on Tuesday.
The library is a TS3100 (3573) at firmware revision E.20 / 3.20e The
drives are ULT3580-HH3 at firmware revision 93GQ
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 10:35 AM, Rob Berendt <rob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
There's drive firmware,
and there's library firmware.
What make/model of library?
What make/model of drive(s) in that library?
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From: Jack Woehr <jwoehr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <
Date: 09/28/2017 12:12 PMfirmware
Subject: Re: BRMS failure
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Jim, we changed the drives two days ago and I flashed the latest
after that.me
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 9:56 AM, Jim Oberholtzer <
midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
No, that's the correct status for a standalone tapeit's
library/device (if
NPIV with fibre, it's different)
Reading your other message about rebooting the library so often
leads
to
a though, when was the library and tape device microcode
. :name<PSteinmetz@xxxxxxxxxx>It's easy and reasonbly fast to do (about 15 minutes on mostthat
libraries) and I'm beginning to wonder if that's the problem.
Remember your tape library is a computer too, just a specialized
one,
needs update and back up itself every now and then.
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Behalf Of Jack Woehr
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 10:35 AM
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Subject: Re: BRMS failure
So if it shows:
TAPMLB01 VARIED ON
TAP01 OPERATIONAL ALLOCATED
Should I de-allocate it?
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 8:38 AM, Steinmetz, Paul
wrote:
Jack,
WRKMLBSTS
You should see all your drives.
If another process has a drive, it should appear.
Device/
Job
Resource Status Allocation
OfTAPMLB01 VARIED ON
TAP02 OPERATIONAL UNPROTECTED
TAP01 OPERATIONAL UNPROTECTED
TAP04 OPERATIONAL UNPROTECTED
TAP03 OPERATIONAL UNPROTECTED
Paul
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Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 10:09 AM
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Subject: RE: BRMS failure
Here's a good troubleshooting guide on that.
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=nas8N1020679
Steve Pitcher
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Subject: BRMS failure
Our backups are failing thusly. It makes no sense at all.
There are tapes.
There is nothing else accessing the library.
What's going on? I've tried everything I can think of.
Message ID . . . . . . : BRM1033 Severity . . . . . .
. :99
Message type . . . . . :
Inquiry
Date sent . . . . . . : 09/28/17 Time sent . . . . .
.available.01:54:39
Message . . . . : Devices needed by control group not
control(C
R)
Cause . . . . . : Devices TAPMLB01 in the device list for
jobsgroup
type cannot be allocated because they are being used by
other
or other
systems.
Recovery . . . : Do one of the
following:
-- Type C to cancel control group processing.
-- Wait for devices to become available, and type R to try
the operation
again.
Possible choices for replying to message . . . . . . . . . . .
.this
.
.
intended:
C -- Cancel
processing.
R -- Try the operation again.
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