Four years ago when we upgraded from a Power5 to a Power7, my manager stated we will now refer to our AS/400 as Power7.
Makes sense, it better relates to where one is, and is definitely more searchable.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of mlazarus
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 8:57 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Is DB2/400 still the correct terminology fo DB2 on the IBM i?

I'm going against the tide here, but I think that way too much weight is being given to the name. IBM messed up the name on multiple occasions:

- Changing it too often (this is perception, no need to break out the
statistics)

- Making the name difficult to search online

- Blurring the differentiation of the server line vs. the system line names

- Renaming the system without substantially changing the primary interface to a GUI

To most users/customers for each upgrade NOTHING visible has changed.
Why should they change what they call the system?? If customers are not changing what they call it (even if they are on the latest POWERx
hardware) any job requirements will reflect the older name. That's to be expected and it makes not one iota of a difference. The job will be exactly the same!

JMHO.

-mark

On 9/23/2015 12:17 AM, DrFranken wrote:
Hmmmm. So are you saying the name isn't important?

I spent 30 minutes today on the phone with a recruiter. He's new in
the area and the market. He had no idea of the history of the system
but referred to it as the iSeries because that was what he was told to
say.

Why is this important? He is trying to find people to fill open jobs.
Some of those he's talking too aren't interested in going to work for
a company who uses an iSeries (or worse, an AS/400!) You see now that
the market is opening up potential employees are starting to get a bit
picky and if your company sounds like it runs an AS/400 even if it
runs IBM i on Power Systems you lose points. You sound 'old'. You
sound 'past tense' if you get my drift.

And often it's actually true! If the I.T. staff says they're looking
for iSeries talent then it's fairly likely they are in fact looking
for 'iSeries Talent!' Oops!


- Larry "DrFranken" Bolhuis

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www.iDevCloud.com - Personal Development IBM i timeshare service.
www.iInTheCloud.com - Commercial IBM i Cloud Hosting.

On 9/22/2015 11:48 PM, Jack Tucky wrote:
Imagine going to a user group meeting and the thing you remember most
is not to call it 400. Trevor must be earning his speaking fees.

On Sep 22, 2015, at 10:57 PM, PaultinNZ <paultormey@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Jim,

Could you share that " ... the memo for management to understand how
to explain our system ​"​ ?

I was just discussing this with a couple of colleagues yesterday and
still battle getting people to change.

Would appreciate that.

Thanks
Paul

On 23 September 2015 at 14:47, midrange <franz9000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

DB2/400 is ancient. So is DB2 for i5/OS and DB2 UDB (Universal
Database)
for
iSeries

It is "DB2 for i " (at least for V7.1 and 7.2 - over 5 years)
although if I am ever talking to a non-Power i person, a trading
partner, I call it just "DB2".

Home page
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/software/i/db2/

IBM has many DB2 products for various platforms

DB2 for Linux, Unix and Windows
DB2 on Cloud
DB2 for i <so what is wrong with this name?>
DB2 for z/OS
DB2 Server for VSE & VM
DB2 Spatial Extender for Linux, Unix and Windows Spatial Support
for DB2 for z/OS
DB2 BLU Acceleration

DB2 was originally IBM Database 2 in 1983 for MVS mainframe We have
thousands of customers accessing our system via a web interface (C#
and Win front end). No one calls it "AS/400" - management forbids
it (potential customers turn away or label us as "old" if we do).
It is "Power i " and the database is DB2.. I wrote the memo for
management to understand how to explain our system. Even 20 year
employees get it... we replaced an old floor model (a Power 5) with
a rack system (Power 7+), called it "Power i", and it's "new!".
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: MIDRANGE-L [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Glenn Gundermann
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 7:19 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Is DB2/400 still the correct terminology fo DB2 on the
IBM i?

Same here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Draper <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sender: "MIDRANGE-L" <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>Date: Tue, 22
Sep
2015
15:12:29
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<midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Is DB2/400 still the correct terminology fo DB2 on the
IBM i?

We just call it an IBM I and refer to the database as db2.

Jerry



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