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Re: vim on POWER specifically IBM i

Yes, all the Apache, mysql, etc are on IBM i (V7). With respect to the security discussion in another thread, keep in mind the IBM i environment is the most secureable environment and you do have to make it that way, but that's not hard to do.

The MySQL binaries delivered with Zend Server report as "Ver 14.14 Distrib 5.1.50, for ibm-i5os (power) using readline 5.1"
It has the ibmdb2i binary with it so you can start the DB/2 engine easily. There are some pre-steps so be sure to check out APAR II14442.

If you really need up to date MySQL I would stay with the Linux version. If DB/2 direct access is a bigger requirement, the 5.1.5 version of MySQL does what most folks need it to since backup/restore, journaling, clustering etc are handled by DB/2

The real magic is the ability to use Open Source stuff on IBM i. Zend Server is the starting point for all of that.


Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


On 4/13/2011 10:06 AM, Jack Kingsley wrote:
I am currently running the JOOMLA and DRUPAL using MYSQL on LINUX on I. I
wanted to install and get MYSQL working on I but when oracle did what they
did recently did not pursue it. Are you running the apache on I for
JOOMLA. Thanks for the information as I see where the VIM on PASE could now
be worthwhile for you based on your additional comments.

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Jim Oberholtzer<midrangel@xxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Jack,
>
> I have not tried cygwin and at this point don't have the time to, but it
> is intriguing.
>
> As to MySQL yes, I am using it on IBM i for many of the open source
> packages that are available. Specifically SugarCRM and Joomla. I also
> use it in specific portions of the iDevCloud.com applications.
>
> I have not found an editable file in the IFS that VIM did not edit
> properly. That said, I am usually dealing with .conf, php/html scripts,
> and some shell scripts.
>
> Jim Oberholtzer
> Chief Technical Architect
> Agile Technology Architects
>
>
> On 4/13/2011 9:10 AM, Jack Kingsley wrote:
> > ok, I see what you mean now. Curious how these would work if you put
> them
> > in a shared folder and did cygwin from windows to the mapped drive. Are
> you
> > doing anyting with MYSQL on I?? so what your talking about is you could
> use
> > VI against any file that you wanted to edit in the ifs.
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Jim Oberholtzer<midrangel@xxxxxxxxxx
> >wrote:
> >
> >> > Jack,
> >> >
> >> > Benefits of some of them are there is no native IBM i way (or easy
> way)
> >> > to do some of the things you can do. For instance, if all you have
> is
> >> > an SSH or TELNET connection to the box, it is really hard to edit
> files
> >> > in the IFS. The native IFS editor just plain sucks wind. VIM on the
> >> > other hand, is an excellent editor. Furthermore anyone with a Unix
> >> > background is likely to be able to use it without much in the way of
> help.
> >> >
> >> > Other examples are zip, cvs, Perl etc. These are tools Unix folks
> use
> >> > on a regular basis (I'm in VIM at least once a day) and if they are
> >> > available on the IBM i , it makes that platform more attractive to
> the
> >> > Unix crowd.
> >> >
> >> > Just in working with the MySQL installation on one of the COMMON Lab
> >> > boxes has been made easy with VIM, hard with IBM i native stuff.....
> >> > Need to do a fast tweek to a PHP script, VIM is the way to do it if
> you
> >> > don't have Zend Studio loaded up, and connected.
> >> >
> >> > Certainly the list of available RPMs ( I found a neat list here:
> >> > http://www.perzl.org/aix/ ) has many items that are not worth the
> work
> >> > (bash for instance) but there are some real gems in there too.
> >> >
> >> > Jim Oberholtzer
> >> > Chief Technical Architect
> >> > Agile Technology Architects
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 4/13/2011 8:08 AM, Jack Kingsley wrote:
> >>> > > Sorry, will not be able to go, I am trying to understand the
> benefits of
> >>> > > having the RPM's in the IFS??
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Jim Oberholtzer<
> midrangel@xxxxxxxxxx
> >>> > >wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>>>> > >> > I'm not an expert at RPM in any way, but if you follow
> the
> >> > instructions
> >>>>> > >> > given by Brian at the Yips site (hosted by idevcloud.com) it seems
> >> > to
> >>>>> > >> > work the same way as the Linux one does, at least in my
> CentOS
> >> > version.
> >>>>> > >> > I had VIM up and running on one of the COMMON lab
> machines in no more
> >>>>> > >> > than 10 minutes including downloads.
> >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>> > >> > If your going to COMMON Annual Meeting, I'll be at ask
> the experts
> >> > near
> >>>>> > >> > the Yips table to discuss my findings. Brian's the
> expert, but I
> >> > gained
> >>>>> > >> > some insight into the process while doing it.
> >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>> > >> > (BTW: Early bird discount for COMMON MSP has been
> extended a few
> >> > days!)
> >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>> > >> > Jim Oberholtzer
> >>>>> > >> > Chief Technical Architect
> >>>>> > >> > Agile Technology Architects
> >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>> > >> > On 4/13/2011 7:19 AM, Jack Kingsley wrote:
> >>>>>> > >>> > > Jim, is this the same RPM as in linux??
> >>>>>> > >>> > >
> >>>>>> > >>> > > On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Jim Oberholtzer<
> >> > midrangel@xxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>> > >>> > >wrote:
> >>>>>> > >>> > >
> >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Presumably they would wind up in the IFS
> yes.
> >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > I'll have a look at the link below...
> >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Jim Oberholtzer
> >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Chief Technical Architect
> >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Agile Technology Architects
> >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > On 4/12/2011 12:58 PM, Jack Kingsley
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>> > > Jim, you want these in the IFS
> then??
> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>> > >
> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>> > > On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:38
> AM,<BMay@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> > wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>> > >
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Jim,
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Look at the
> instructions on the YiPs
> >> > wiki:
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>> > >> >
> http://www.youngiprofessionals.com/wiki/PASE/OpenSourceBinaries
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Once you get the
> RPM scripts set up and
> >> > install the
> >>>>> > >> > Package Manager,
> >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > you
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > will find the
> vim-common, vim-enhanced,
> >> > vim-minimal, and
> >>>>> > >> > vim-X11
> >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > binaries
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > in the GetXedit
> group under editors.
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > HTH,
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Brian May
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Project Lead
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Management
> Information Systems
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Garan,
> Incorporated
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Starkville,
> Mississippi
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Jim Oberholtzer<
> midrangel@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
> Sentby:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>> > >> > >>>>> > >> > 04/12/2011 07:52 AM
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Please respond to
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Midrange Systems
> Technical Discussion<
> >>>>> > >> > midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > To
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Midrange Systems
> Technical Discussion<
> >>>>> > >> > midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > cc
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Subject
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > vim on POWER
> specifically IBM i
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Folks:
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > I have been
> searching for a binary
> >> > install so I can run
> >>>>> > >> > vim editor
> >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > from
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > an ssh session
> (putty) on IBM i. Upon
> >> > searching the
> >>>>> > >> > internet there
> >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > are
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > lots of hits for
> AIX but I have yet to
> >> > find a place where
> >>>>> > >> > PASE
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > compatible
> binaries are found.
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Any ideas?
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > (on a quest to get
> real unix bitheads to
> >> > like the IBM i
> >>>>> > >> > platform.....
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > this seems to be
> one of the biggest
> >> > roadblocks)
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > --
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Jim Oberholtzer
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Chief Technical
> Architect
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Agile Technology
> Architects
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
> >> > --

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