Re: vim on POWER specifically IBM i

[Jim Oberholtzer <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Jack,

Benefits of some of them are there is no native IBM i way (or easy way) 
to do some of the things you can do.  For instance, if all you have is 
an SSH or TELNET connection to the box, it is really hard to edit files 
in the IFS.  The native IFS editor just plain sucks wind.  VIM on the 
other hand, is an excellent editor.  Furthermore anyone with a Unix 
background is likely to be able to use it without much in the way of help.

Other examples are zip, cvs, Perl etc.  These are tools Unix folks use 
on a regular basis (I'm in VIM at least once a day) and if they are 
available on the IBM i , it makes that platform more attractive to the 
Unix crowd.

Just in working with the MySQL installation on one of the COMMON Lab 
boxes has been made easy with VIM, hard with IBM i native stuff.....  
Need to do a fast tweek to a PHP script, VIM is the way to do it if you 
don't have Zend Studio loaded up, and connected.

Certainly the list of available RPMs  ( I found a neat list here: 
http://www.perzl.org/aix/ ) has many items that are not worth the work 
(bash for instance) but there are some real gems in there too.

Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


On 4/13/2011 8:08 AM, Jack Kingsley wrote:
> Sorry, will not be able to go, I am trying to understand the benefits of
> having the RPM's in the IFS??
>
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Jim Oberholtzer<midrangel@xxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
> > >  I'm not an expert at RPM in any way, but if you follow the instructions
> > >  given by Brian at the Yips site (hosted by idevcloud.com )  it seems to
> > >  work the same way as the Linux one does, at least in my CentOS version.
> > >  I had VIM up and running on one of the COMMON lab machines in no more
> > >  than 10 minutes including downloads.
> > >
> > >  If your going to COMMON Annual Meeting, I'll be at ask the experts near
> > >  the Yips table to discuss my findings.  Brian's the expert, but I gained
> > >  some insight into the process while doing it.
> > >
> > >  (BTW:  Early bird discount for COMMON MSP has been extended a few days!)
> > >
> > >  Jim Oberholtzer
> > >  Chief Technical Architect
> > >  Agile Technology Architects
> > >
> > >
> > >    On 4/13/2011 7:19 AM, Jack Kingsley wrote:
> > > >  >  Jim, is this the same RPM as in linux??
> > > >  >
> > > >  >  On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Jim Oberholtzer<midrangel@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > >  >wrote:
> > > >  >
> > > > > >  >>  >    Presumably they would wind up in the IFS yes.
> > > > > >  >>  >
> > > > > >  >>  >    I'll have a look at the link below...
> > > > > >  >>  >
> > > > > >  >>  >    Jim Oberholtzer
> > > > > >  >>  >    Chief Technical Architect
> > > > > >  >>  >    Agile Technology Architects
> > > > > >  >>  >
> > > > > >  >>  >
> > > > > >  >>  >      On 4/12/2011 12:58 PM, Jack Kingsley wrote:
> > > > > > >  >>>  >    >   Jim, you want these in the IFS then??
> > > > > > >  >>>  >    >
> > > > > > >  >>>  >    >   On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:38 AM,<BMay@xxxxxxxxx>    wrote:
> > > > > > >  >>>  >    >
> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >     Jim,
> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >
> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >     Look at the instructions on the YiPs wiki:
> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >
> > >  http://www.youngiprofessionals.com/wiki/PASE/OpenSourceBinaries
> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >
> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >     Once you get the RPM scripts set up and install the
> > >  Package Manager,
> > > > > >  >>  >    you
> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >     will find the vim-common, vim-enhanced, vim-minimal, and
> > >  vim-X11
> > > > > >  >>  >    binaries
> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >     in the GetXedit group under editors.
> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >
> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >     HTH,
> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >
> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >     Brian May
> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >     Project Lead
> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >     Management Information Systems
> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >     Garan, Incorporated
> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >     Starkville, Mississippi
> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >
> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >
> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >
> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >     Jim Oberholtzer<midrangel@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >     Sentby:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >    >>>>>  >   >>   >     04/12/2011 07:52 AM
> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >     Please respond to
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> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >     vim on POWER specifically IBM i
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> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >     Folks:
> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >
> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >     I have been searching for a binary install so I can run
> > >  vim editor
> > > > > >  >>  >    from
> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >     an ssh session (putty) on IBM i.  Upon searching the
> > >  internet there
> > > > > >  >>  >    are
> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >     lots of hits for AIX but I have yet to find a place where
> > >  PASE
> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >     compatible binaries are found.
> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >
> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >     Any ideas?
> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >
> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >     (on a quest to get real unix bitheads to like the IBM i
> > >  platform.....
> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >     this seems to be one of the biggest roadblocks)
> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >
> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >     --
> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >     Jim Oberholtzer
> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >     Chief Technical Architect
> > > > > > > > >  >>>>>  >    >>   >     Agile Technology Architects
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