Re: vim on POWER specifically IBM i

I am currently running the JOOMLA and DRUPAL using MYSQL on LINUX on I. I
wanted to install and get MYSQL working on I but when oracle did what they
did recently did not pursue it. Are you running the apache on I for
JOOMLA. Thanks for the information as I see where the VIM on PASE could now
be worthwhile for you based on your additional comments.

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Jim Oberholtzer <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

Jack,

I have not tried cygwin and at this point don't have the time to, but it
is intriguing.

As to MySQL yes, I am using it on IBM i for many of the open source
packages that are available. Specifically SugarCRM and Joomla. I also
use it in specific portions of the iDevCloud.com applications.

I have not found an editable file in the IFS that VIM did not edit
properly. That said, I am usually dealing with .conf, php/html scripts,
and some shell scripts.

Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


On 4/13/2011 9:10 AM, Jack Kingsley wrote:

ok, I see what you mean now. Curious how these would work if you put

them

in a shared folder and did cygwin from windows to the mapped drive. Are

you

doing anyting with MYSQL on I?? so what your talking about is you could

use

VI against any file that you wanted to edit in the ifs.

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Jim Oberholtzer<midrangel@xxxxxxxxxx
wrote:

Jack,

Benefits of some of them are there is no native IBM i way (or easy

way)

to do some of the things you can do. For instance, if all you have

is

an SSH or TELNET connection to the box, it is really hard to edit

files

in the IFS. The native IFS editor just plain sucks wind. VIM on the
other hand, is an excellent editor. Furthermore anyone with a Unix
background is likely to be able to use it without much in the way of

help.

Other examples are zip, cvs, Perl etc. These are tools Unix folks

use

on a regular basis (I'm in VIM at least once a day) and if they are
available on the IBM i , it makes that platform more attractive to

the

Unix crowd.

Just in working with the MySQL installation on one of the COMMON Lab
boxes has been made easy with VIM, hard with IBM i native stuff.....
Need to do a fast tweek to a PHP script, VIM is the way to do it if

you

don't have Zend Studio loaded up, and connected.

Certainly the list of available RPMs ( I found a neat list here:
http://www.perzl.org/aix/ ) has many items that are not worth the

work

(bash for instance) but there are some real gems in there too.

Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


On 4/13/2011 8:08 AM, Jack Kingsley wrote:

> Sorry, will not be able to go, I am trying to understand the

benefits of

> having the RPM's in the IFS??
>
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Jim Oberholtzer<

midrangel@xxxxxxxxxx

>wrote:
>

>> > I'm not an expert at RPM in any way, but if you follow

the

instructions

>> > given by Brian at the Yips site (hosted by idevcloud.com) it seems

to

>> > work the same way as the Linux one does, at least in my

CentOS

version.

>> > I had VIM up and running on one of the COMMON lab

machines in no more

>> > than 10 minutes including downloads.
>> >
>> > If your going to COMMON Annual Meeting, I'll be at ask

the experts

near

>> > the Yips table to discuss my findings. Brian's the

expert, but I

gained

>> > some insight into the process while doing it.
>> >
>> > (BTW: Early bird discount for COMMON MSP has been

extended a few

days!)

>> >
>> > Jim Oberholtzer
>> > Chief Technical Architect
>> > Agile Technology Architects
>> >
>> >
>> > On 4/13/2011 7:19 AM, Jack Kingsley wrote:

>>> > > Jim, is this the same RPM as in linux??
>>> > >
>>> > > On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Jim Oberholtzer<

midrangel@xxxxxxxxxx

>>> > >wrote:
>>> > >

>>>>> > >> > Presumably they would wind up in the IFS

yes.

>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> > I'll have a look at the link below...
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> > Jim Oberholtzer
>>>>> > >> > Chief Technical Architect
>>>>> > >> > Agile Technology Architects
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> > On 4/12/2011 12:58 PM, Jack Kingsley

wrote:

>>>>>> > >>> > > Jim, you want these in the IFS

then??

>>>>>> > >>> > >
>>>>>> > >>> > > On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:38

AM,<BMay@xxxxxxxxx>

wrote:

>>>>>> > >>> > >

>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Jim,
>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Look at the

instructions on the YiPs

wiki:

>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >

>> >

http://www.youngiprofessionals.com/wiki/PASE/OpenSourceBinaries

>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Once you get the

RPM scripts set up and

install the

>> > Package Manager,

>>>>> > >> > you

>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > will find the

vim-common, vim-enhanced,

vim-minimal, and

>> > vim-X11

>>>>> > >> > binaries

>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > in the GetXedit

group under editors.

>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > HTH,
>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Brian May
>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Project Lead
>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Management

Information Systems

>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Garan,

Incorporated

>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Starkville,

Mississippi

>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Jim Oberholtzer<

midrangel@xxxxxxxxxx>

>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >

Sentby:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx

>> > >>>>> > >> > 04/12/2011 07:52 AM

>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Please respond to
>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Midrange Systems

Technical Discussion<

>> > midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > To
>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Midrange Systems

Technical Discussion<

>> > midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > cc
>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Subject
>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > vim on POWER

specifically IBM i

>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Folks:
>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > I have been

searching for a binary

install so I can run

>> > vim editor

>>>>> > >> > from

>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > an ssh session

(putty) on IBM i. Upon

searching the

>> > internet there

>>>>> > >> > are

>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > lots of hits for

AIX but I have yet to

find a place where

>> > PASE

>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > compatible

binaries are found.

>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Any ideas?
>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > (on a quest to get

real unix bitheads to

like the IBM i

>> > platform.....

>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > this seems to be

one of the biggest

roadblocks)

>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > --
>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Jim Oberholtzer
>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Chief Technical

Architect

>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Agile Technology

Architects

>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >

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