There are a couple of misconceptions going on here. While i5/OS is not
perfect there has been significant investment into this product. You
may not like where the investment is going or the results but to assume
that it is not being invested in is just plain wrong. That is exactly
what it is - an incorrect assumption. There have been a number of decent
suggestions for improvements and there have been a number here that we
just term as Whiskey Tango Foxtrot's. Just because someone throws it
out, has seen it somewhere else, or can't think beyond what Microsoft
does doesn't always mean that it's correct or that the community as a
whole would ask for it. Granted, i5/OS releases aren't as dramatic or
implemented the same way as other operating systems. But when they come
out in 18-24 month cycles instead of 60+ month cycles you might just
want to expect it to not be handled the same or carry the same amount of
drama. When the product preview or announcement is made and the GA
product is out within months instead of years you shouldn't expect the
same beta methodologies. There is always going to be discussion as to
which method is better - but it always seems to be decided upon which
camp someone grew up in. It's a bias - not an analytical process.
Enhancements in the area of development are somewhat problematic. You
have to start looking at IBM as a whole and not just simply focus in on
i5/OS. Here, I tend to agree with the concept of the negative comments
of others, I just don't agree on the details by any stretch. Over the
last few years development has landed more and more into the dominion of
IBM software. As far as I'm concerned this is not a good thing and over
time it has been pretty successful at damaging the system. Not that
i5/OS only enhancements aren't needed. There are vehicles to get
enhancement ideas in front of IBM. I'm wondering how many of those that
have referenced suggestions on this list have done anything more than
that? These enhancements or lack thereof don't just appear or not
appear by themselves. It's either through some sort of effort or lack
there of that causes this. That doesn't mean that all well meaning
enhancements get approved. Some are problematic. Some don't get
community buy in. Some may not make as much sense as the originator may
think they do.
Michael Crump
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Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 10:09 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: System i Revenue Up
Steve,
Is it you job to come around here and disseminate FUD? If that's
how
you feel about the i5, why waste your time on this listserv (especially
the
effort of posting to it). I have to assume that if you make the effort,
there must be some motive behind it...
By the way, those are pretty lame arguments against the i5... it's the
best
system I have ever run across for running BUSINESSES. I don't think
those
minor annoyances add up to much trouble for such a stable and unique
architecture.
Trevor Perry
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Steve,
Haven't you played this card before? Time for a new deck, or maybe a new
table for you??
Trevor
On 1/25/08 9:15 AM, "Steve Richter" <stephenrichter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jan 25, 2008 7:52 AM, Ketzes, Larry <Larry.Ketzes@xxxxxxx> wrote:
After the last 8 quarters, this is indeed very good to see.
Hopefully
the
Power6 can provide some momentum.
what with i5/OS starved for investment, I dont see how the system has
a
future. ILE is outdated, object names limited to 10 chars, max 16 meg
user
spaces, clients like crystal reports only see the 10 char sql
procedure
name, sql procedures could be better integrated into the system, ...
-Steve
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