RE: Any thoughts on the PowerVM and lx86 announcement?

The IBM pricing still seems very messed up. Or at least contrary to
recent changes. We had pricing changes that allowed for configurations
that didn't use DB2 - Domino, Websphere, etc. That pricing on the web
site seems to just kill that.

There are mentions in the announcements for pricing beyond 40 users but
that page is pretty explicit.

10 Users -- PWR6-61X 1478 2,500
Unlimit Users -- PWR6-61X 1479 50,000
Unlim Ext Access -- PWR6-61X 1480 3,995
Unlim Collab User -- PWR6-61X 1481 5,995

But if you have to factor in the 15K that would shoot the foot off of
every configuration I can think of. As well as the fact that the same
hardware costs more than others.

Michael Crump

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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Richter
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 5:21 PM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Any thoughts on the PowerVM and lx86 announcement?

On Jan 29, 2008 5:10 PM, Lukas Beeler <lukas.beeler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On Jan 29, 2008 11:03 PM, Steve Richter <stephenrichter@xxxxxxxxx>

wrote:

for each core ( guessing ) in the 4 core blade that is running i5/OS

you

pay

$15K for the i5/OS license. For Linux you pay approx $1K.

15k for a single CPU i5/OS core license?

Insane. But it makes sense if IBM is serious about killing the

platform

off.

you have to factor in the price of db2 on the AIX system. as of 2 years
ago, this is what IBM told me:

db2 express runs on the max 2 processors and 4GB of memory.
db2 express can be had on a per user pricing of $624 + $124 per user.
Unlimited users is $4874 per processor.
the workgroup server edition of db2 is $1211 + $311 per user or
unlimited users for $9375 per processor.

I think part of the $15K per core price is for DB2 which is built into
i5/OS.

The max 40 user limit, if true, is what I think is nuts. The system can
run
hundreds of users, but even if you will pay the $250 per user price,
Bill
Zeitler, the i5/OS killer, will only allow the system to run 40 users.