Do you need to communicate to someone who is not listening or keeping
Marketing is for awareness, not education...

I was determined not to participate in another name debate, but Trevor
(and I say this in the nicest way possible because I like you), on this
point you couldn't be more wrong.

Yes, IBM screwed this name thing up royally - and the group that is most
adversely affected is ISV's - we now have to change all of our marketing
collateral to reflect all of the existing names, and no, no effing way,
can we afford to drop the "AS/400" moniker because there are lots of
people who have a need for ISV software for there System i's, yet still
refer to their System's as "AS/400's". No ISV I know of is willing (or
able) to ignore a prospect because the prospect doesn't know the current
"correct" name for the freaking box.

We (ISV's) _need_ to talk to people who still think of the box as
"AS/400" because they need our (ISV's collectively) software. If we
ignore this demographic, we could miss a huge chunk of our potential

My advice to the original poster is to prominently use the name AS/400
on your website. There will be lots of people who will google on that
name, and you want them to find you.


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-----Original Message-----
From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:midrange-l-
bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Trevor Perry
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 11:33 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: Marketing question about AS/400 name

There are two parts to this issue.
One - what is it called now, and how do I reach people who are being
by current IBM 'marketing'?
- In this case, I think you use "i5/OS". "System i" can be used, but
appears that hardware is going to matter less in the future.
Two - what was it called, and how do I reach the people who still
think it
is called that?
- In this case, you reference the heritage of the hardware and the
so you cover all google attempts.

Of course, there is another part to this issue. Just read any System i
forum, and there has been gazillions of mentions of the new names.
steadfast remain committed to AS/400 or iSeries. Are these people not
listening or keeping up? What marketing effort will work for them? If
try to change something, and someone has an opinion "I ain't changing,
can't make me", should you change your marketing effort for these
or should you market to people who are open to change and willing to
I say the latter!

On 10/4/07 2:20 PM, "Booth Martin" <booth@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

But how does one communicate to the casual user that doesn't "keep

This isn't like General Motors coming up with a new model Chevrolet,
like GM changing the Chevrolet name plate every couple of years. A
Chevrolet dealership is a Chevrolet dealership, and has been for 80
years. Its not advertised as the General Motors dealership because
isn't. Its a Chevrolet dealership. Want a Corvette? Thats where
go, and everyone knows it.

So how do we keep that same continuity in our sales and marketing?

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