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This is the kind of experience that I was looking for. Now what about a box with an HMC? A couple of years ago I was at an HMC session at the Design Center in Austin. (Steve L. was there also; help me remember, Steve.) I thought that I remembered the presenter saying at that time that you would be able buy an iSeries or a pSeries and not even load the O/S, you could just create all of the partitions from the HMC and load them up with Linux, for example. It was very obvious at that session that the pSeries people (even though some had already worked with HMCs) did not have nearly as many O/S features as we did. They'd never even heard of virtual ethernet or virtual optical at that time. Shortly after Linux became supported on the iSeries I asked an IBM presenter why AIX was not yet supported. (How could AIX be harder to port than Linux?) I was told that it was working in the lab but had not yet been GA'd because of "politics." So I'll try to be even more specific. Can AIX be loaded on an i5 with an HMC and no i5/OS partition? Or vice-versa. If it costs "a GAZILLION dollars" to run i5/OS on a p5 what else do you need to buy? Or do you just need a GAZILLION dollar p5? Regards, Scott Ingvaldson iSeries System Administrator GuideOne Insurance Group -----Original Message----- date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:21:33 -0400 from: Bryan Dietz <BDietz@xxxxxxxxxx> subject: Re: i5 vs. p5 You cannot load i5/OS on "any" p5. I tried loading v5r5 on a p5 520 specificially: Machine type-model: 9111-520 I brought in parts to support it but I could not get it to "D" IPL to CD. After talking to some IBM'ers there appears to be some kind of feature code stuck in the FSP that will not allow i5/OS to be loaded. _____________________________ Bryan Dietz Aktion Associates "i want an i" midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 07/28/2006 10:46:18 AM: -> Seriously what's the difference? Can anyone definitively say that you -> can't (or can) load i5/OS on any 5xx model p5 or load AIX on any 5xx -> series i5? -> -> I took a plant tour at IBM Rochester yesterday and the tour guide -> specifically said that there was no way to tell an i5 from a p5 until -> the cover was put on. Later I asked one of the engineers and she said -> that other than licensing and support issues she didn't know why it -> wouldn't work. -> -> A thread earlier this week suggested that i5/OS could only run on p5 in -> a "limited fashion" and it would cost "a GAZILLION dollars." Does -> anyone really know? -> -> Regards, -> -> Scott
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