Re: iTera - Echo 2 Training input.

Thanks, Ron. Al suggested that iTera training is extremely good so the Win
guy should be an adequate fit. He already loves System i for the robustness
of DB2 over SQL server and the RPG class in September should complete him as
a System i programmer. Ofcourse, he still will have a long way to go but in
the right direction atleast...:-0).

Thanks again for the wonderful input,

Jake.

On 7/17/06, Ron-Zimmerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <Ron-Zimmerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

I forgot to include that there is no need for any knowledge of RPG for
learning/supporting the Echo2 software.  Some knowledge of CL would be
helpful in automating some of the auditing processes that iTera
recommends, but they include samples in their libraries and the training
manuals.

Thank you,
Ronald L. Zimmerman
I.T. Applications Manager
Swiss Valley Farms, Co.      http://www.swissvalley.com
"The Good for You Company"
Email: Ron-Zimmerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 07/17/2006 09:39:27 AM:

> Jake,
>
> After reading this expanded description of your two guys, I would say
that
> your Win guy will be an adequate choice.  As another responder said, he
> will probably be a System i convert in a short time!
>
> Thank you,
> Ronald L. Zimmerman
> I.T. Applications Manager
> Swiss Valley Farms, Co.      http://www.swissvalley.com
> "The Good for You Company"
> Email: Ron-Zimmerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote on 07/17/2006 09:18:41 AM:
>
> > Ron, Al;
> > Thanks a lot for the responses. I appreciate it. The RPG guy is not
very
> > interested in going and we are just taking volunteers but the Win guy
is
> > very interested in going. He does know quite a bit about remote
> journaling
> > as compared to the RPG guy. I want the RPG guy to go but he is a
senior
> > member of our team and we cannot be coercive with him...:). The Win
guy
> does
> > not know any RPG programming but knows all our PF's and dB structure
> pretty
> > well and has good knowledge about remote journaling. We are at a catch

> 22
> > right now but I really appreciate your input and that is what I was
> exactly
> > looking for.
> >
> > Thanks again,
> >
> > Jake.
> >
> > On 7/17/06, Ron-Zimmerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <Ron-Zimmerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I would concur with Al.  I have been to the iTera training.  Anyone
> who
> > > does not have a good understanding of the System i, it's command,
and
> it's
> > > architecture would probably be very lost.  There is absolutely no
> > > knowledge of the windows necessary for using Echo2.
> > >
> > > In your case, I would definitely opt for the RPG programmer.  He/she
> > > should have no problem at all with understanding and learning the
> Echo2
> > > software.
> > >
> > > By the way, the iTera training is some of the best I have ever seen
in
> > > over 30 years in this business.
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > > Ronald L. Zimmerman
> > > I.T. Applications Manager
> > > Swiss Valley Farms, Co.      http://www.swissvalley.com
> > > "The Good for You Company"
> > > Email: Ron-Zimmerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Al Barsa <barsa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> > > 07/17/2006 08:44 AM
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> > > Subject
> > > Re: iTera - Echo 2 Training input.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I've never been to iTera training, although I am a Lakeview/MIMIX
BP.
> I
> > > suspect that a Win Environment person is the wrong person.
> > >
> > > The likely candidate needs to know the System i, with a reasonable
> > > knowledge of journaling and database.
> > >
> > > Al
> > >
> > > Al Barsa, Jr.
> > > Barsa Consulting Group, LLC
> > >
> > > 400>390
> > >
> > > "i" comes before "p", "x" and "z"
> > > e gads
> > >
> > > Our system's had more names than Elizabeth Taylor!
> > >
> > > 914-251-1234
> > > 914-251-9406 fax
> > >
> > > http://www.barsaconsulting.com
> > > http://www.taatool.com
> > > http://www.as400connection.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >              "Jake M"
> > >              <jakeroc@xxxxxxxx
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input.
> > >              07/17/2006 09:32
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> > >
> > >
> > >              Please respond to
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Good morning Pro's,
> > > We have a dilemma this morning and hopefully I can get some input
from
> the
> > > pro's which could point us in the right direction. I was wondering
if
> > > anybody has attended the iTera training in Salt Lake City, UT. We
are
> > > trying
> > > to send two personnel for the training and were wondering who would
be
> a
> > > good fit for the training. Does the trainee need to be very well
> versed
> > > with
> > > System i or just need to have good amount of knowledge about the
> libraries
> > > and files.
> > >
> > >     My first choice is a totally Win environment guy who barely uses
> > > System
> > > i. He just uses the DB2 to retrieve, update data. He has all the
> knowledge
> > > about the libraries and files on our system. Our second choice is a
> RPG
> > > programmer and he has no knowledge about Win environment whatsover.
He
> > > knows
> > > our System i very well though. The second guy would be our Network
> Admin
> > > so
> > > we are good there.
> > >
> > >     So, I was wondering if anybody had attended the training? If so,

> any
> > > kind of input would be much appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > >
> > > Jake.
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