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I'd imagine your Win guy should be OK, after hearing this description of
his skills.  The setup and operation of iTera seems pretty
straightforward, not too filthy.  No RPG is necessary to run a
replication environment for any vendor on System i.  

Sounds like your RPG guy is about ready to retire.  =)  Send your
Windows guy, he'll be a System i convert in about 6 months.


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IBM Certified Systems Expert - System i
Kingland Systems Corporation

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[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jake M
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 9:19 AM
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: iTera - Echo 2 Training input.

Ron, Al;
Thanks a lot for the responses. I appreciate it. The RPG guy is not very
interested in going and we are just taking volunteers but the Win guy is
very interested in going. He does know quite a bit about remote
journaling as compared to the RPG guy. I want the RPG guy to go but he
is a senior member of our team and we cannot be coercive with him...:).
The Win guy does not know any RPG programming but knows all our PF's and
dB structure pretty well and has good knowledge about remote journaling.
We are at a catch 22 right now but I really appreciate your input and
that is what I was exactly looking for.

Thanks again,

Jake.

On 7/17/06, Ron-Zimmerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<Ron-Zimmerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

I would concur with Al.  I have been to the iTera training.  Anyone 
who does not have a good understanding of the System i, it's command, 
and it's architecture would probably be very lost.  There is 
absolutely no knowledge of the windows necessary for using Echo2.

In your case, I would definitely opt for the RPG programmer.  He/she 
should have no problem at all with understanding and learning the 
Echo2 software.

By the way, the iTera training is some of the best I have ever seen in

over 30 years in this business.

Thank you,
Ronald L. Zimmerman
I.T. Applications Manager
Swiss Valley Farms, Co.      http://www.swissvalley.com
"The Good for You Company"
Email: Ron-Zimmerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx



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I've never been to iTera training, although I am a Lakeview/MIMIX BP.

I suspect that a Win Environment person is the wrong person.

The likely candidate needs to know the System i, with a reasonable 
knowledge of journaling and database.

Al

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Good morning Pro's,
We have a dilemma this morning and hopefully I can get some input from

the pro's which could point us in the right direction. I was wondering

if anybody has attended the iTera training in Salt Lake City, UT. We 
are trying to send two personnel for the training and were wondering 
who would be a good fit for the training. Does the trainee need to be 
very well versed with System i or just need to have good amount of 
knowledge about the libraries and files.

    My first choice is a totally Win environment guy who barely uses 
System i. He just uses the DB2 to retrieve, update data. He has all 
the knowledge about the libraries and files on our system. Our second 
choice is a RPG programmer and he has no knowledge about Win 
environment whatsover. He knows our System i very well though. The 
second guy would be our Network Admin so we are good there.

    So, I was wondering if anybody had attended the training? If so, 
any kind of input would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Jake.
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