Re: Internships was: iSeries ads taken over by xSeries

>The college made the descision to change to teaching
>MS classes.

But they do not seem to teach "SYSTEM or Data Integrate".

Eurrat Saylor, Jr.




>Regardless of the reasons, the iSeries market is declining. I don't
>know
>if that will change or not. But there isn't a pressing need for
>people
>to get into the iSeries marketplace. I was adjunct faculty at a
>community college for a long time. We trained all the iSeries people
>that the area needed. Enrollment in iSeries classes dropped
>significantly. The college made the descision to change to teaching
>MS
>classes. The classes have been full for years now.
>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Internships was: iSeries ads taken over by xSeries
>> From: rob@xxxxxxxxx
>> Date: Tue, January 17, 2006 1:43 pm
>> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> 
>> We used to do internships.  We just haven't had any need for new
>meat 
>> lately.  I suspect it's like that at a lot of local businesses. 
>And Fort 
>> Wayne just lost Waterfield Mortgage.  That was a large iSeries and
>pSeries 
>> shop.  Saw one of them post on the midrange-jobs this week.  When
>you've 
>> got a lot of experienced talent out pounding the pavement, why
>train new?
>> 
>> Rob Berendt
>> -- 
>> Group Dekko Services, LLC
>> Dept 01.073
>> PO Box 2000
>> Dock 108
>> 6928N 400E
>> Kendallville, IN 46755
>> http://www.dekko.com
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> Why not get local businesses involved and offer internships at
>iSeries 
>> shops...or something like that?  Why wouldn't companies start
>in-house 
>> training for their iSeries folks, start at operations and work into
>
>> programming?  What do they have to lose? 
>>  
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Don <dr2@xxxxxxxx>
>> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:08:35 -0500
>> Subject: Re: iSeries ads taken over by xSeries
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Bingo Trevor!
>> 
>> Well, education seems to be the key here, Trevor.
>> 
>> Frankly, what education IS current IT getting??  Once again, let's
>rehash 
>> this again as IBM still doesn't get it.  Students in ANY IT
>ciriculum 
>> today 
>> are being forced Window and Unix dialects, databases, IDE's,
>languages, 
>> methods....  That's what they learn in school.  That's the ONLY 
>> talent/knowledge base they bring to the market place.  That's what
>they 
>> want to buy/work with/hire/promote/etc....
>> 
>> Gee, is there any question why we're seeing what we are??
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> At 11:52 AM 1/17/2006 -0600, you wrote:
>> >It is sad, really... A little education goes a long way. Lack of 
>> education
>> >creates ignorance and keeps us in the last century..
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "Don"
>> >Subject: Re: iSeries ads taken over by xSeries
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Actually, I have no idea how it was implemented, and you're
>right, but 
>> the
>> > > IT Dir's position was that all the drop downs, etc., were
>killing the
>> > > front
>> > > desk folks's performance...   Their words, not mine.
>> > >
>> > > Oh well...time for more important things...like lunch.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > At 11:26 AM 1/17/2006 -0600, you wrote:
>> > >>Poor implementation of a GUI does not make 5250 better!
>> > >>
>> > >>:-)
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>----- Original Message -----
>> > >>From: "Don"
>> > >>Subject: Re: iSeries ads taken over by xSeries
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Jerry,
>> > >> >
>> > >> > What WAS interesting was talking to a IT Dir at a
>casino/hotel that 
>> had
>> > >> > wanted to replace all the front desk check in 5250 devices
>with
>> > >> > GUI/Windows...  The front desk people bitched so loudly that
>> > >> > GUI/Windows
>> > >> > was slowing them down that the GUI was replaced accross the
>board 
>> with
>> > >> > 5250
>> > >> > devices again... :)
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Don in DC
>> >
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