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Being serious. Is ISN really still around? Come on, the only thing I remember from that is a cool blue button. Does the council still meet ? If so, what have they done lately? Pete ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Re: Internships was: iSeries ads taken over by xSeries From: "Don" <dr2@xxxxxxxx> Date: Tue, January 17, 2006 4:10 pm To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Answer you own question: ISN has been around for HOW long now? And we're > still discussing what?? > > > > > > > At 02:30 PM 1/17/2006 -0500, you wrote: >>It really is up to IBM then. iSeries Nation can't change much...right? >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>Sent: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:48:00 -0700 >>Subject: RE: Internships was: iSeries ads taken over by xSeries >> >> >>Regardless of the reasons, the iSeries market is declining. I don't know >>if that will change or not. But there isn't a pressing need for people >>to get into the iSeries marketplace. I was adjunct faculty at a >>community college for a long time. We trained all the iSeries people >>that the area needed. Enrollment in iSeries classes dropped >>significantly. The college made the descision to change to teaching MS >>classes. The classes have been full for years now. >> >> > -------- Original Message -------- >> > Subject: Internships was: iSeries ads taken over by xSeries >> > From: rob@xxxxxxxxx >> > Date: Tue, January 17, 2006 1:43 pm >> > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > >> > We used to do internships. We just haven't had any need for new meat >> > lately. I suspect it's like that at a lot of local businesses. And >> Fort >> > Wayne just lost Waterfield Mortgage. That was a large iSeries and >> pSeries >> > shop. Saw one of them post on the midrange-jobs this week. When >> you've >> > got a lot of experienced talent out pounding the pavement, why train >> new? >> > >> > Rob Berendt >> > -- >> > Group Dekko Services, LLC >> > Dept 01.073 >> > PO Box 2000 >> > Dock 108 >> > 6928N 400E >> > Kendallville, IN 46755 >> > http://www.dekko.com >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > fbocch2595@xxxxxxx >> > Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> > 01/17/2006 01:24 PM >> > Please respond to >> > Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > >> > >> > To >> > midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> > cc >> > >> > Fax to >> > >> > Subject >> > Re: iSeries ads taken over by xSeries >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Why not get local businesses involved and offer internships at iSeries >> > shops...or something like that? Why wouldn't companies start in-house >> > training for their iSeries folks, start at operations and work into >> > programming? What do they have to lose? >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Don <dr2@xxxxxxxx> >> > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > Sent: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:08:35 -0500 >> > Subject: Re: iSeries ads taken over by xSeries >> > >> > >> > >> > Bingo Trevor! >> > >> > Well, education seems to be the key here, Trevor. >> > >> > Frankly, what education IS current IT getting?? Once again, let's >> rehash >> > this again as IBM still doesn't get it. Students in ANY IT ciriculum >> > today >> > are being forced Window and Unix dialects, databases, IDE's, >> languages, >> > methods.... That's what they learn in school. That's the ONLY >> > talent/knowledge base they bring to the market place. That's what >> they >> > want to buy/work with/hire/promote/etc.... >> > >> > Gee, is there any question why we're seeing what we are?? >> > >> > >> > >> > At 11:52 AM 1/17/2006 -0600, you wrote: >> > >It is sad, really... A little education goes a long way. Lack of >> > education >> > >creates ignorance and keeps us in the last century.. >> > > >> > >----- Original Message ----- >> > >From: "Don" >> > >Subject: Re: iSeries ads taken over by xSeries >> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > Actually, I have no idea how it was implemented, and you're right, >> but >> > the >> > > > IT Dir's position was that all the drop downs, etc., were killing >> the >> > > > front >> > > > desk folks's performance... Their words, not mine. >> > > > >> > > > Oh well...time for more important things...like lunch. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > At 11:26 AM 1/17/2006 -0600, you wrote: >> > > >>Poor implementation of a GUI does not make 5250 better! >> > > >> >> > > >>:-) >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >>----- Original Message ----- >> > > >>From: "Don" >> > > >>Subject: Re: iSeries ads taken over by xSeries >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > >> > > >> > Jerry, >> > > >> > >> > > >> > What WAS interesting was talking to a IT Dir at a casino/hotel >> that >> > had >> > > >> > wanted to replace all the front desk check in 5250 devices with >> > > >> > GUI/Windows... The front desk people bitched so loudly that >> > > >> > GUI/Windows >> > > >> > was slowing them down that the GUI was replaced accross the >> board >> > with >> > > >> > 5250 >> > > >> > devices again... :) >> > > >> > >> > > >> > Don in DC >> > > >> > >-- >> > >This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) >> mailing >> > list >> > >To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> > >To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, >> > >visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l >> > >or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> > >Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives >> > >at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. >> > > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing >> > list >> > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, >> > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l >> > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives >> > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. >> > -- >> > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing >> > list >> > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, >> > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l >> > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives >> > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. >> > >> > >> > -- >> > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing >> list >> > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, >> > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l >> > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives >> > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. >> >>-- >>This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing >> list >>To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, >>visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l >>or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives >>at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. >>-- >>This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing >> list >>To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, >>visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l >>or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives >>at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. >> > > > -- > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing > list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > >
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