ISeries Nation

Being serious. Is ISN really still around?  Come on, the only thing I
remember from that is a cool blue button. Does the council still meet ? 
If so, what have they done lately?

Pete

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Subject: Re: Internships was: iSeries ads taken over by xSeries
From:    "Don" <dr2@xxxxxxxx>
Date:    Tue, January 17, 2006 4:10 pm
To:      "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Answer you own question:  ISN has been around for HOW long now?  And we're
> still discussing what??
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> At 02:30 PM 1/17/2006 -0500, you wrote:
>>It really is up to IBM then.  iSeries Nation can't change much...right?
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:48:00 -0700
>>Subject: RE: Internships was: iSeries ads taken over by xSeries
>>
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>>Regardless of the reasons, the iSeries market is declining. I don't know
>>if that will change or not. But there isn't a pressing need for people
>>to get into the iSeries marketplace. I was adjunct faculty at a
>>community college for a long time. We trained all the iSeries people
>>that the area needed. Enrollment in iSeries classes dropped
>>significantly. The college made the descision to change to teaching MS
>>classes. The classes have been full for years now.
>>
>> > -------- Original Message --------
>> > Subject: Internships was: iSeries ads taken over by xSeries
>> > From: rob@xxxxxxxxx
>> > Date: Tue, January 17, 2006 1:43 pm
>> > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >
>> > We used to do internships.  We just haven't had any need for new meat
>> > lately.  I suspect it's like that at a lot of local businesses.  And
>> Fort
>> > Wayne just lost Waterfield Mortgage.  That was a large iSeries and
>> pSeries
>> > shop.  Saw one of them post on the midrange-jobs this week.  When
>> you've
>> > got a lot of experienced talent out pounding the pavement, why train
>> new?
>> >
>> > Rob Berendt
>> > --
>> > Group Dekko Services, LLC
>> > Dept 01.073
>> > PO Box 2000
>> > Dock 108
>> > 6928N 400E
>> > Kendallville, IN 46755
>> > http://www.dekko.com
>> >
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>> >
>> > fbocch2595@xxxxxxx
>> > Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > 01/17/2006 01:24 PM
>> > Please respond to
>> > Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>> > To
>> > midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > cc
>> >
>> > Fax to
>> >
>> > Subject
>> > Re: iSeries ads taken over by xSeries
>> >
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>> >
>> >
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>> >
>> > Why not get local businesses involved and offer internships at iSeries
>> > shops...or something like that?  Why wouldn't companies start in-house
>> > training for their iSeries folks, start at operations and work into
>> > programming?  What do they have to lose?
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Don <dr2@xxxxxxxx>
>> > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:08:35 -0500
>> > Subject: Re: iSeries ads taken over by xSeries
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Bingo Trevor!
>> >
>> > Well, education seems to be the key here, Trevor.
>> >
>> > Frankly, what education IS current IT getting??  Once again, let's
>> rehash
>> > this again as IBM still doesn't get it.  Students in ANY IT ciriculum
>> > today
>> > are being forced Window and Unix dialects, databases, IDE's,
>> languages,
>> > methods....  That's what they learn in school.  That's the ONLY
>> > talent/knowledge base they bring to the market place.  That's what
>> they
>> > want to buy/work with/hire/promote/etc....
>> >
>> > Gee, is there any question why we're seeing what we are??
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > At 11:52 AM 1/17/2006 -0600, you wrote:
>> > >It is sad, really... A little education goes a long way. Lack of
>> > education
>> > >creates ignorance and keeps us in the last century..
>> > >
>> > >----- Original Message -----
>> > >From: "Don"
>> > >Subject: Re: iSeries ads taken over by xSeries
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Actually, I have no idea how it was implemented, and you're right,
>> but
>> > the
>> > > > IT Dir's position was that all the drop downs, etc., were killing
>> the
>> > > > front
>> > > > desk folks's performance...   Their words, not mine.
>> > > >
>> > > > Oh well...time for more important things...like lunch.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > At 11:26 AM 1/17/2006 -0600, you wrote:
>> > > >>Poor implementation of a GUI does not make 5250 better!
>> > > >>
>> > > >>:-)
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>----- Original Message -----
>> > > >>From: "Don"
>> > > >>Subject: Re: iSeries ads taken over by xSeries
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > Jerry,
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > What WAS interesting was talking to a IT Dir at a casino/hotel
>> that
>> > had
>> > > >> > wanted to replace all the front desk check in 5250 devices with
>> > > >> > GUI/Windows...  The front desk people bitched so loudly that
>> > > >> > GUI/Windows
>> > > >> > was slowing them down that the GUI was replaced accross the
>> board
>> > with
>> > > >> > 5250
>> > > >> > devices again... :)
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > Don in DC
>> > >
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