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  3. January 2006

Re: ISeries Nation

They are on the main web site somewhere. I think they did succeed in
certain respect. There was a point where you didn't think that
there would still be jobs for you as an Iseries professional. They raised
conciousness to some extent.

> Being serious. Is ISN really still around?  Come on, the only thing I
> remember from that is a cool blue button. Does the council still meet ?
> If so, what have they done lately?
>
> Pete
>
>  ---------------------------- Original Message
> ----------------------------
> Subject: Re: Internships was: iSeries ads taken over by xSeries
> From:    "Don" <dr2@xxxxxxxx>
> Date:    Tue, January 17, 2006 4:10 pm
> To:      "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>> Answer you own question:  ISN has been around for HOW long now?  And
>> we're
>> still discussing what??
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 02:30 PM 1/17/2006 -0500, you wrote:
>>>It really is up to IBM then.  iSeries Nation can't change much...right?
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:48:00 -0700
>>>Subject: RE: Internships was: iSeries ads taken over by xSeries
>>>
>>>
>>>Regardless of the reasons, the iSeries market is declining. I don't know
>>>if that will change or not. But there isn't a pressing need for people
>>>to get into the iSeries marketplace. I was adjunct faculty at a
>>>community college for a long time. We trained all the iSeries people
>>>that the area needed. Enrollment in iSeries classes dropped
>>>significantly. The college made the descision to change to teaching MS
>>>classes. The classes have been full for years now.
>>>
>>> > -------- Original Message --------
>>> > Subject: Internships was: iSeries ads taken over by xSeries
>>> > From: rob@xxxxxxxxx
>>> > Date: Tue, January 17, 2006 1:43 pm
>>> > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >
>>> > We used to do internships.  We just haven't had any need for new meat
>>> > lately.  I suspect it's like that at a lot of local businesses.  And
>>> Fort
>>> > Wayne just lost Waterfield Mortgage.  That was a large iSeries and
>>> pSeries
>>> > shop.  Saw one of them post on the midrange-jobs this week.  When
>>> you've
>>> > got a lot of experienced talent out pounding the pavement, why train
>>> new?
>>> >
>>> > Rob Berendt
>>> > --
>>> > Group Dekko Services, LLC
>>> > Dept 01.073
>>> > PO Box 2000
>>> > Dock 108
>>> > 6928N 400E
>>> > Kendallville, IN 46755
>>> > http://www.dekko.com
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > fbocch2595@xxxxxxx
>>> > Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> > 01/17/2006 01:24 PM
>>> > Please respond to
>>> > Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > To
>>> > midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> > cc
>>> >
>>> > Fax to
>>> >
>>> > Subject
>>> > Re: iSeries ads taken over by xSeries
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Why not get local businesses involved and offer internships at
>>> iSeries
>>> > shops...or something like that?  Why wouldn't companies start
>>> in-house
>>> > training for their iSeries folks, start at operations and work into
>>> > programming?  What do they have to lose?
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Don <dr2@xxxxxxxx>
>>> > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> > Sent: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:08:35 -0500
>>> > Subject: Re: iSeries ads taken over by xSeries
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Bingo Trevor!
>>> >
>>> > Well, education seems to be the key here, Trevor.
>>> >
>>> > Frankly, what education IS current IT getting??  Once again, let's
>>> rehash
>>> > this again as IBM still doesn't get it.  Students in ANY IT ciriculum
>>> > today
>>> > are being forced Window and Unix dialects, databases, IDE's,
>>> languages,
>>> > methods....  That's what they learn in school.  That's the ONLY
>>> > talent/knowledge base they bring to the market place.  That's what
>>> they
>>> > want to buy/work with/hire/promote/etc....
>>> >
>>> > Gee, is there any question why we're seeing what we are??
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > At 11:52 AM 1/17/2006 -0600, you wrote:
>>> > >It is sad, really... A little education goes a long way. Lack of
>>> > education
>>> > >creates ignorance and keeps us in the last century..
>>> > >
>>> > >----- Original Message -----
>>> > >From: "Don"
>>> > >Subject: Re: iSeries ads taken over by xSeries
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Actually, I have no idea how it was implemented, and you're
>>> right,
>>> but
>>> > the
>>> > > > IT Dir's position was that all the drop downs, etc., were killing
>>> the
>>> > > > front
>>> > > > desk folks's performance...   Their words, not mine.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Oh well...time for more important things...like lunch.
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > At 11:26 AM 1/17/2006 -0600, you wrote:
>>> > > >>Poor implementation of a GUI does not make 5250 better!
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>:-)
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>----- Original Message -----
>>> > > >>From: "Don"
>>> > > >>Subject: Re: iSeries ads taken over by xSeries
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > Jerry,
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > What WAS interesting was talking to a IT Dir at a casino/hotel
>>> that
>>> > had
>>> > > >> > wanted to replace all the front desk check in 5250 devices
>>> with
>>> > > >> > GUI/Windows...  The front desk people bitched so loudly that
>>> > > >> > GUI/Windows
>>> > > >> > was slowing them down that the GUI was replaced accross the
>>> board
>>> > with
>>> > > >> > 5250
>>> > > >> > devices again... :)
>>> > > >> >
>>> > > >> > Don in DC
>>> > >
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