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Re: iSeries ads taken over by xSeries

>>The president of the last company I consulted at told me
>>simply...that AS400 is a legacy system and all senior 
>>officers of the company view it as such! 
>> 
>>Ugh! 

>lemme guess.... 40-something MBA's who manage by spreadsheet?

Doesn't that blow your mind?? 


---- Original Message ----
From: pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
To: midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: iSeries ads taken over by xSeries
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:39:56 -0600

>
>lemme guess.... 40-something MBA's who manage by spreadsheet?
>-- 
>
>Paul Nelson
>Arbor Solutions, Inc.
>708-670-6978  Cell
>pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
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>That's crazy, but it's the typical comment I hear. 
> 
>The president of the last company I consulted at told me
>simply...that 
>AS400 is a legacy system and all senior officers of the company view
>it as 
>such! 
> 
>Ugh! 
> 
> 
> 
>-----Original Message-----
>From: pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
>To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:26:16 -0600
>Subject: Re: iSeries ads taken over by xSeries
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>Nope, he's paying through the nose. The project is over 12 million
>last 
>time I checked. Meanwhile, his iSeries package keeps humming along.
>-- 
>
>Paul Nelson
>Arbor Solutions, Inc.
>708-670-6978  Cell
>pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
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>Is he going to swap out the Oracle accounting package...or is he
>getting 
>it for free? 
> 
>-----Original Message-----
>From: pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
>To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 11:45:37 -0600
>Subject: RE: iSeries ads taken over by xSeries
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>
>How about my customer in the construction business? 6 years and
>counting, 
>for Oracle to complete its construction cost accounting package. 
>Meanwhile, the customer upgraded to a 520 last summer.
>-- 
>
>Paul Nelson
>Arbor Solutions, Inc.
>708-670-6978  Cell
>pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
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>Vance Stanley <w_vance_stanley@xxxxxxxxx> 
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>I was afraid thats what you would say. It would not hurt so bad to
>know it 
>
>
>was a superior product
>gaining market share.  Instead its the proven being replaced by the
>"hurry 
>
>
>up and buy it so we can
>develop it for you package".  Don't worry! If you buy we will deploy
>it in 
>
>
>90 days!!  Hmmmm... Two
>years later and overbudget we are almost there....... 
>
>--- Don <dr2@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> 
>> What do you think!?   Same story you hear everywhere else.  Same
>thing 
>we 
>> rehash here all the time.  Same thing that IBM choses to ignore.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> At 08:34 AM 1/17/2006 -0800, you wrote:
>> >Hi Don,
>> >  What is causing the casinos to change?  Has someone developed a 
>superior 
>> > product or are there
>> >some snake oil saleman peddling soloutions?
>> >Vance
>> >
>> >--- Don <dr2@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > That is also a trend that is regretably changing.
>> > >
>> > > Don in DC
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > At 09:18 AM 1/17/2006 -0600, you wrote:
>> > > >I think most of the casinos, period, are on the iSeries.
>> > > >--
>> > > >
>> > > >Paul Nelson
>> > > >Arbor Solutions, Inc.
>> > > >708-670-6978  Cell
>> > > >pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >directsystemsinc02 <directsystemsinc02@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>> > > >Please respond to
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>> > > >To
>> > > >"'Midrange Systems Technical Discussion'"
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>> > > >Subject
>> > > >RE: iSeries ads taken over by xSeries
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >So aren't the American Indian casinos in the continental USA.
>> > > >
>> > > >Jack Derham
>> > > >Direct Systems, Inc.
>> > > >
>> > > >-----Original Message-----
>> > > >From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >[mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
>pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 8:41 AM
>> > > >To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
>> > > >Subject: Re: iSeries ads taken over by xSeries
>> > > >
>> > > >Oddly enough, most of the Native Corporations in Alaska are
>running
>> > > >iSeries boxes. I wonder why.......  :-))
>> > > >--
>> > > >
>> > > >Paul Nelson
>> > > >Arbor Solutions, Inc.
>> > > >708-670-6978  Cell
>> > > >pnelson@xxxxxxxxxx
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >Jerry Adams <jerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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>> > > >Subject
>> > > >Re: iSeries ads taken over by xSeries
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >I have a friend that has been in advertising since we
>graduated 
>from
>> > > >college (30+) and now a CEO-type.  He was, shall we say,
>disdainful 
>
>
>when
>> > > >I was explaining on what system I program: "Never heard of
>it."
>> > > >Naturally, I had to set him right and, up to a point,
>succeeded. 
>But
>> > > >his company has (a farm of?) Windows server(s) and just
>dumping 
>them for
>> > > >an iSeries even with an on board Windows server is not
>something 
>he's
>> > > >likely to do.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >IBM has a huge investment in Linux and Java (and, of course, 
>OS/400).
>> > > >Plus these seem to be two of the big things these days in the
>IT
>> > > >curricula so they're hitting where the grads and "buzz" are
>these 
>days.
>> > > >I'm not surprised.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >My friend (see above) said I ought to sell iSeries systems,
>but I 
>think
>> > > >the truth is that we all should.  I was watching a TV show on
>the 
>Inuit
>> > > >(Eskimos) a few days ago.  Not Nanook of the North; use
>snowmobiles
>> > > >instead of sleds (at least the part I saw).  Anyway, it made
>me 
>think of
>> > > >an ad.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >A cultural anthropologist new to the area, apparently, is
>talking 
>to an
>> > > >Inuit when another Inuit drives by on a dog sled.  "Oh, that's
>
>Caleb.
>> > > >Got one hell of a Windows server."  Next minute, the sled
>topples 
>over.
>> > > >Then another Inuit whizzes by on his snowmobile.  "Oh, that's 
>Joshua.
>> > > >Got an IBM iSeries server.  Runs, Linux, OS/400, AIX and has
>an on 
>board
>> > > >Windows server."  As Joshua zooms over the hill and out of
>sight, 
>"You
>> > > >know I've never seen him fall over."
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >                  * Jerry C. Adams
>> > > >*iSeries Programmer/Analyst
>> > > >B&W Wholesale Distributors, Inc.* *
>> > > >voice
>> > > >                  615.893.8633x152
>> > > >fax
>> > > >                  615.995.1201
>> > > >email
>> > > >                  jerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <
>mailto:jerry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >GKern@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > >Maybe the "i' now stands for invisible?
>> > > > >
>> > > > >Regards, Jerry
>> > > > >
>> > > > >Gerald Kern - MIS Project Leader
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