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He!! of a qualifier there - "non-defective". I think that's their concern. Rob Berendt -- Group Dekko Services, LLC Dept 01.073 PO Box 2000 Dock 108 6928N 400E Kendallville, IN 46755 http://www.dekko.com Reeve <rfritchman@xxxxxxxxx> Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx 01/13/2005 09:26 PM Please respond to Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject Re: PTF's affecting system operation? I didn't inquire about the status of their production systems; I doubt they're current. I can see applying a PTF to a test box first, and I can even see considering some regression testing on the test box. But I'm unaware of any non-defective PTF that's caused a change in behavior in a "normal" application. -rf On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:50:46 -0500, Walden H. Leverich <WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >A customer tells me they haven't applied PTF's to their development > >V5R2 S20 (sigh) in a year because they "don't want to affect the > >testing environment". > > Have they applied the PTFs in production? Or is this a case of wanting > the testing environment to match production? I can see not applying a > PTF in test until you're willing to apply it in production[1], but if > production has the PTF and test doesn't I'd say you're invalidating the > test anyway. > > -Walden > > [1] Obviously you would apply the PTF in test and if ok, then in > production. But the idea is one follows closely w/the other. > > ------------ > Walden H Leverich III > President & CEO > Tech Software > (516) 627-3800 x11 > WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.TechSoftInc.com > > Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur. > (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.) > > -----Original Message----- > From: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Reeve > Sent: Wednesday, 12 January, 2005 21:34 > To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion > Subject: PTF's affecting system operation? > > A customer tells me they haven't applied PTF's to their development > V5R2 S20 (sigh) in a year because they "don't want to affect the > testing environment". > > I go back to the System/38 pre-announcement meetings as an IBM'er and > have never heard this prattle before. We expect such behavior with > Windows (actually, it doesn't even take a service pack, it just takes > another keystroke) but not with OS/400. And since it's my application > in the testing environment, I'm reasonably (as in as close to 100% as > possible) sure there's nothing application-dependent going on. > > Is this a CYA crock or is there merit in the customer's statement? > > Thanks, > Reeve > -- > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing > list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > > -- > This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list > To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, > visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l > or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx > Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives > at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l. > > -- This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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