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I didn't inquire about the status of their production systems; I doubt
they're current.  I can see applying a PTF to a test box first, and I
can even see considering some regression testing on the test box.  But
I'm unaware of any non-defective PTF that's caused a change in
behavior in a "normal" application.

-rf 


On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:50:46 -0500, Walden H. Leverich
<WaldenL@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >A customer tells me they haven't applied PTF's to their development
> >V5R2 S20 (sigh) in a year because they "don't want to affect the
> >testing environment".
> 
> Have they applied the PTFs in production? Or is this a case of wanting
> the testing environment to match production? I can see not applying a
> PTF in test until you're willing to apply it in production[1], but if
> production has the PTF and test doesn't I'd say you're invalidating the
> test anyway.
> 
> -Walden
> 
> [1] Obviously you would apply the PTF in test and if ok, then in
> production. But the idea is one follows closely w/the other.
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Reeve
> Sent: Wednesday, 12 January, 2005 21:34
> To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
> Subject: PTF's affecting system operation?
> 
> A customer tells me they haven't applied PTF's to their development
> V5R2 S20 (sigh) in a year because they "don't want to affect the
> testing environment".
> 
> I go back to the System/38 pre-announcement meetings as an IBM'er and
> have never heard this prattle before.  We expect such behavior with
> Windows (actually, it doesn't even take a service pack, it just takes
> another keystroke) but not with OS/400.  And since it's my application
> in the testing environment, I'm reasonably (as in as close to 100% as
> possible) sure there's nothing application-dependent going on.
> 
> Is this a CYA crock or is there merit in the customer's statement?
> 
> Thanks,
> Reeve
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