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I think his last statement sums it up.  If there isn't something broke 
(that you know about anyway) why take a chance on breaking something by 
applying a ptf?  Definitely not the attitude here.  Have we discovered 
something wrong occasionally with a new release or ptf?  You betcha.  But 
we also realize that IBM puts those ptfs out there to fix stuff that's 
already broke.  Occasionally it's for enhancement purposes, but mainly to 
fix stuff.  And enhancement isn't necessarily a dirty word.

Rob Berendt
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Group Dekko Services, LLC
Dept 01.073
PO Box 2000
Dock 108
6928N 400E
Kendallville, IN 46755
http://www.dekko.com





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Hey, there's someone here in the Chicago area who's still on V3R7 because 
his management hasn't wanted to give him an occasional weekend to do 
upgrades. They take the position that if the system's running OK, don't 
mess with it.


Paul Nelson
Arbor Solutions, Inc.
708-670-6978  Cell
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A customer tells me they haven't applied PTF's to their development
V5R2 S20 (sigh) in a year because they "don't want to affect the
testing environment".

I go back to the System/38 pre-announcement meetings as an IBM'er and
have never heard this prattle before.  We expect such behavior with
Windows (actually, it doesn't even take a service pack, it just takes
another keystroke) but not with OS/400.  And since it's my application
in the testing environment, I'm reasonably (as in as close to 100% as
possible) sure there's nothing application-dependent going on.

Is this a CYA crock or is there merit in the customer's statement?

Thanks,
Reeve
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