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I can't say that I am personally feeling the effects of all this outsourcing
(yet!), but I agree wholeheartedly with Clare's sentiments, that this is not
the correct forum for giving TRAINING to ANY individual, Indian or
otherwise.  

I most certainly am not a racist, religious bigot, political extremist,
homophobe .... or a practitioner of any other non-tolerant sect, but

If a colleague in my company needs training, I have the option of arranging
internal or external courses for them - either way it costs the business
real time & £money.

Those who are trying to use this forum as a classroom are cheating us (in
more ways than one), they are cheating themselves out of formal education,
and cheating the training sector out of business.

I for one will not be replying in the future, to any postings that are so
transparently 'lessons'.

Kind regards,

Jeffrey E. Bull
OS400 Software Support Consultant

IBM Certifiied iSeries System Implementation Expert
IBM Certified AS/400 System Administrator 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Clare Holtham [mailto:Clare.Holtham@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 14 August 2003 13:45
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Subject: Re: How to find out the main memory capacity


Hi Oliver,

Have you looked up these guys (hcltech, gurgaon, India) on the internet?
These are the 'offsourcing' guys who are taking our jobs - and then they
expect us to train them for free as well!!

cheers,

Clare

Clare Holtham
Director, Small Blue Ltd - Archiving for BPCS
Web: www.smallblue.co.uk
IBM Certified AS/400 Systems Professional
E-Mail: Clare.Holtham@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Mobile: +44 (0)7960 665958
----- Original Message -----
From: <oliver.wenzel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Midrange Systems Technical Discussion" <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 12:51 PM
Subject: RE: How to find out the main memory capacity


>
> Hi,
>
> how about discussing these simple issues internally first?
>
> Regards,
>
> Oliver
>
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