RE: Tiger Tools -- MIDRANGE-L

OK...  I'll bite:

What is the ENDOSAMA command?
Is that another one of the TAA tools, and how much do they run, now...;-)

jt

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> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 12:26 PM
> To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> Subject: Re: Tiger Tools
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> The way Tiger Tools works is by launching a job which goes through the TDE
> looking for the bit that says "Charge me as an interactive job?' Yes/No.
>
> IBM I assume will change the location of that bit in short order for all
> releases, and you can be sure that they won't tell you which PTF it is.
> Also that PTF will likely be a prerequisite PTF for any future PTFs, so
> there won't be any getting around it.
>
> Now here's the $64,000 question.  What will IBM code then do to
> your system
> when the original bit gets changed by a third party tool.  I suspect that
> the might execute the ENDOSAMA command *IMMED:-))))).  I don't
> think that I
> would want Tiger Tools on my system when this happens!
>
> Al
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> Not to start this one up again, but I need a little more ammo here.
>
> My company is considering (the executives, not me) getting Tiger Tools.  I
> used it on a sandbox, no apparent harm done, seemed to help on interactive
> a
> bit, yatta yatta.  However - the IBM standpoint of "this is bad, don't use
> this, we won't help you if you do" is a hinderance to my buy-in on TTools.
> Here's a couple questions.
>
> 1.  Since the tool appears to work, will IBM release a PTF which will
> disable it?
> 2.  What does it *actually* do?  Any nasty under-the-covers
> stuff, or is it
> really simple, anyone with half a brain could do it sort of things?
> 3.  What will IBM say if you have a problem and they find you have TTools
> installed?
> 4.  Is there a legal aspect to this that IBM could use against customers?
>
> I firmly believe that IBM hardware/software is good.  Any workaround on
> that
> generally decreases your reliability and availability, in my mind.
> Pros/cons to TTools @ an executive level would be great.
>
> Justin C. Haase
> Midrange Systems Engineer - Kingland Systems Corporation
> 1401 - 6th Avenue South - Clear Lake, IA 50428 USA
> IBM Certified AS/400 Systems Administrator
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