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The way Tiger Tools works is by launching a job which goes through the TDE looking for the bit that says "Charge me as an interactive job?' Yes/No. IBM I assume will change the location of that bit in short order for all releases, and you can be sure that they won't tell you which PTF it is. Also that PTF will likely be a prerequisite PTF for any future PTFs, so there won't be any getting around it. Now here's the $64,000 question. What will IBM code then do to your system when the original bit gets changed by a third party tool. I suspect that the might execute the ENDOSAMA command *IMMED:-))))). I don't think that I would want Tiger Tools on my system when this happens! Al Al Barsa, Jr. Barsa Consulting Group, LLC 400>390 914-251-1234 914-251-9406 fax http://www.barsaconsulting.com http://www.taatool.com "Haase, Justin C." <Justin.Haase@Kingl To: "'midrange-l@midrange.com'" <midrange-l@midrange.com> and.com> cc: Sent by: Subject: Tiger Tools midrange-l-admin@mi drange.com 11/07/01 11:52 AM Please respond to midrange-l Not to start this one up again, but I need a little more ammo here. My company is considering (the executives, not me) getting Tiger Tools. I used it on a sandbox, no apparent harm done, seemed to help on interactive a bit, yatta yatta. However - the IBM standpoint of "this is bad, don't use this, we won't help you if you do" is a hinderance to my buy-in on TTools. Here's a couple questions. 1. Since the tool appears to work, will IBM release a PTF which will disable it? 2. What does it *actually* do? Any nasty under-the-covers stuff, or is it really simple, anyone with half a brain could do it sort of things? 3. What will IBM say if you have a problem and they find you have TTools installed? 4. Is there a legal aspect to this that IBM could use against customers? I firmly believe that IBM hardware/software is good. Any workaround on that generally decreases your reliability and availability, in my mind. Pros/cons to TTools @ an executive level would be great. Justin C. Haase Midrange Systems Engineer - Kingland Systems Corporation 1401 - 6th Avenue South - Clear Lake, IA 50428 USA IBM Certified AS/400 Systems Administrator _______________________________________________ This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/cgi-bin/listinfo/midrange-l or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@midrange.com Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.
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