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Amen brother!

For a release upgrade I would go to the web site:
http://www-912.ibm.com/s_dir/sline003.NSF/GroupPTFs?OpenView&view=GroupPTFs

And order any group ptf that might remotely apply to my 400.  At the bare
minimum:
Hipers, Database, Backup Recovery Solutions, Java, and your flavor of web
server.

And keep in mind, just like ordering SF99450 or SF99510 these are subject
to change.  Sometimes weekly.  Example, SF99105 may contain different PTF's
from week to week.  So just because you've applied SF99105 a year ago
doesn't mean you don't have to reapply it from a more recent copy.

Rob Berendt

==================
A smart person learns from their mistakes,
but a wise person learns from OTHER peoples mistakes.



                    "Jim Franz"
                    <franz400@triad.rr.       To:     <midrange-l@midrange.com>
                    com>                      cc:
                    Sent by:                  Fax to:
                    midrange-l-admin@mi       Subject:     Re: Will Upgrading 
to V4R5 impact performance???
                    drange.com


                    10/09/2001 05:06 AM
                    Please respond to
                    midrange-l






in the V4r5 preventive service plan (psp) SF98450 is the following:

   4. 00/10/11 To prevent possible query performance problems after
               installing Version 4 Release 5.0, perform the following:
               1.  Order Database Group PTF SF99105 and have the CD
                   available BEFORE the upgrade.
               2.  Apply Database Group PTF SF99105 immediately after
                   applying the latest cumulative PTF package.

  10. 01/06/04 DB2 Universal Database (UDB) for iSeries contains
               join query performance enhancements.  Refer to
               Information APAR II12888 for additional information.

   I would not load v4r5 without #4 above.
Are you having query problems after loading SF99105? This warning in psp
since Oct/2000.
Also would not load a release without reading the PSP (and am not saying
you
didn't, but as a warning to others).
This same warning to anyone who received a v4r5 pre-loaded system.
I did 2 different v4r5 upgrades last weekend for 2 diff companies - no
problems.
jim franz

----- Original Message -----
From: "Basit Khan" <Bkhan@medexassist.com>
To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 9:12 AM
Subject: RE: Will Upgrading to V4R5 impact performance???


> I had no performance issues before the upgrade however after I upgraded
to
> v4r5 it was a disaster - every time we have a single user running query
it
> will basically stop processing every thing else. We ended up moving to
> another box.
> I will say if you have an older box and it has no performance issues just
> leave it alone - unless you have have a more robust box. We had 436 which
> was an old box but it was performing very well with v4r3 - now that we
> migrated to 170 and it is working fine with v4r5 ( but it has more DASD
and
> memory is almost double than older box)
>
>
>
> B Khan
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rob@dekko.com [mailto:rob@dekko.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 5:50 PM
> To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> Subject: RE: Will Upgrading to V4R5 impact performance???
>
>
>
> Basit,
>
> What are your measurements, before and after the upgrade?
>
>
> Rob Berendt
>
> ==================
> A smart person learns from their mistakes,
> but a wise person learns from OTHER peoples mistakes.
>
>
>
>                     Basit Khan
>                     <Bkhan@medexassist.       To:
> "'midrange-l@midrange.com'" <midrange-l@midrange.com>
>                     com>                      cc:
>                     Sent by:                  Fax to:
>                     midrange-l-admin@mi       Subject:     RE: Will
> Upgrading to V4R5 impact performance???
>                     drange.com
>
>
>                     10/08/2001 03:37 PM
>                     Please respond to
>                     midrange-l
>
>
>
>
>
>
> be ready for Slow performance...
>
> B Khan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Franz [mailto:franz400@triad.rr.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 1:35 PM
> To: midrange-l@midrange.com
> Subject: Re: Will Upgrading to V4R5 impact performance???
>
>
> Just did two upgrades this weekend.
> model 600 (smallest processor) V4R3 w/128 meg memory 12 gig disk
> model S10 2119 V4R4 w/256memory 32 gig disk
>
> model 600 took forever - about 16 hours total including cum ptf
> model S10 was done in 9 including cum.
> no performance degradation so far (model 600 already was slow for users)
> I would recommend more memory for your box.
> Also - for the 600, just OS, RPG, Dev Tools, took addtl 800 meg disk.
> be sure to read the Preventive Service Plan (PSP) for this upgrade.
> (not listed in release instructions)at 4.3, your machine needs to have
ptf
> MF25727 (product 5769999) already installed (or a supersede)
> we also loaded SF99105 Group PTF for Database
> SF99096 Hiper ptf's after v4r5 cum ptf
> hth
> jim franz
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barb Nash" <Barb.Nash@phbcorp.com>
> To: <midrange-l@midrange.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 1:31 PM
> Subject: Will Upgrading to V4R5 impact performance???
>
>
> > Hello,
> >     I am planning on upgrading our 9402 (model 400, feature 2131)from
> V4R3
> > to V4R5 in the near future. We have 194MB of RAM and 31GB, 43% is used.
> We
> > are running MAPICS, with approximately 50 users, both green screen and
> > client access.
> >       From what I have been reading on various web sites, postings...
is
> > that when we upgrade to V4R5 there may be diminished performance. I
have
> > spoken with IBM and they assure me that we will be OK, however our CE
> tends
> > to differ. I was wondering if anyone with our configuration has done
such
> an
> > upgrade and what impact it has had.
> >
> > Thanks for your help.
> > Barb
> >
> >
> >
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