Re: Upgrade to a 270 -- MIDRANGE-L

If you are going the route described below, I would suggest any user
profiles
group profiles, auth lists, etc get restored first. You can avoid the
recreating
the authorizations in step 6. Definitely would not try this with a complex
system. If you are not going to read the Roadmap, at least read the Backup
and Recovery Reference-latest version! jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "MDC Information Systems" <mdcis@iol.ie>
To: <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 3:21 AM
Subject: Re: Upgrade to a 270


> Art,
> You will recollect that I had a lot of trouble with our new 270 some weeks
> back. Now that we are happily up and running here is my advice (for what
> it's worth) based on first hand experience-
>
> MDC's Motorway Map (sorry, interstate to most you guys)
> 1. Ignore IBM Roadmap, (IMHO it's the worst manual IBM ever shipped with a
> new box)
> 2. Do NOT restore SAVSYS or any SAVLIB *NONSYS libaries or objects or
> authorities
>     (Al is right, you will screw up QUSERSYS, we had to do a scratch
install
> to recover)
> 3. Install any 3rd party (or your own) software from the source tapes/CDs
> 4. Restore user data libaries as normal
> 5. Restore any required directories individually to the IFS
> 6. Setup user profiles and manually grant any authority needed
> 7. Configure comms., TCP etc., start subsystems and off you go!
> 8. Rewrite & re test your disaster recovery procedures (only applies to a
> mixed level OS envirnoment)
>
> Above works fine from any RISC OS level when you don't have hundreds of
> usersl. The old box can be left RUNNING during it all,  i.e. NO OS upgrade
> needed.
> Good luck,
>
> Mike Dunnion
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Art Tostaine, Jr. <art@link400.com>
> To: MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com <MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com>
> Date: 06 September 2000 23:00
> Subject: RE: Upgrade to a 270
>
>
> >I'm going to do what you did.  I'll save some steps because we have a CLP
> to
> >create/recreate the system values, subsystems, etc.  I've got the thing
> >powered up and working.  I'm going to restore our libraries soon.
> >
> >Art Tostaine, Jr.
> >CCA, Inc.
> >Jackson, NJ 08527
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-midrange-l@midrange.com
> >[mailto:owner-midrange-l@midrange.com]On Behalf Of Chris Bipes
> >Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 4:33 PM
> >To: 'MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com'
> >Subject: RE: Upgrade to a 270
> >
> >
> >I did not upgrade but Installed a new AS400 by first added the necessary
> >user profiles manually.  Then creating the subsystems manually.  The job
> >queues, out queues... This took lots of time.  Then I restored our
> >application libraries and data libraries.  I had to configure the whole
> >system from scratch, what a PAIN.  But I replaced a CISC 3.2 system with
a
> >4.4 RISC system without going to 4.3 first.  The 170 came with 4.4 and we
> >did not have 4.3.  This was a new box not an upgrade even though we
> replaced
> >the CICS with it.  So if you are not upgrading, you can install/restore
> your
> >user applications to the 270 and there is NO road map for this.  Lots of
> >work! Very clean install ;>)
> >
> >Christopher K. Bipes mailto:ChrisB@Cross-Check.com
> >Sr. Programmer/Analyst mailto:Chris_Bipes@Yahoo.com
> >CrossCheck, Inc.    http://www.cross-check.com
> >6119 State Farm Drive Phone: 707 586-0551 x 1102
> >Rohnert Park CA  94928 Fax: 707 586-1884
> >
> >If consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, only geniuses work here.
> >Karen Herbelin - Readers Digest 3/2000
> >
> >
> >This is crazy!  I've ordered a brand new 270.  I don't want to migrate
> >anything over EXCEPT my user program and data libraries.  Why do I have
> >to
> >go through a 100 page roadmap and 270 page software installation guide?
> >
> >I should just be able to turn on the 270, and do RSTLIB's.  Why is this
> >process so difficult?  My source 400 is on V4R4.   Why can't a 270 that
> >has
> >V4R5 just restore previous libraries?
> >
> >If I want to restore a customers tape from V4R2, I can't?!?
> >
> >There has got to be support for restoring customer data from previous
> >releases in V4R5!
> >
> >Art Tostaine, Jr.
> >CCA, Inc.
> >Jackson, NJ 08527
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