Re: Tipton's COMMON opening speech -- MIDRANGE-L

John -

>Chuck,  Chuck
>Calm down.  You'll hurt yourself.

You're projecting guy. I'm fine.

> >2. Letter writing campaign. <SNIP> . We  brought with us
> >HUNDREDS of letters from users of RPG/free, <SNIP>
>
>Gee Chuck, You're still mad/hurt about that huh?
>I remember the stack of paper.
>Let me see,   It was you and Paul, and Roger, and.......
>(and paraphrasing Alice's Restaurant)   "And the
>judge wasn't gonna look at the 27   8" by 10" color glossy
>photo's with the ................."

Whatever that means.

I was illustrating a point that I know first-hand the effect of sending 
hundreds of letters to IBM. It has no effect. So why even suggest it?

>-------------------------------------------------
><SNIP> Macintosh didn't achieve success BECAUSE
> > of positive press, it achieved success DESPITE the negative press
> > it has received over the past 16 years  <SNIP>
>
>I say,   B.S.    Apple wouldn't be around today if M$ didn't invest in
>them a few years ago.  They would've been gone,  toast.
>And M$ only invested in them
>just so they could say they had competition.
>And BTW,    a REALLY REALLY BIGGGGGGGG
>By The Way   Chuck is that  the MAC was
>Apple's  ONNNNNNNNNNNNNLYYYYYY Source of revenue.
>A little bit different than IBM's position don't ya think ?
>
>I personally don't think comparisons between IBM and
>Apple, Sun and MS  are valid for the most part.

Geez, what an annoying level of discourse.

>----------------
> > Bob Tipton must prove himself  <SNIP>
>No that's not the point I was making.    It's an easy point for
>you to jump to,  but it wasn't my point.      My point was that
>It's been a while since    "It's the Marketing"   COMMON,
>  and the "Where's the TV commercials IBM ?"  speech is
>getting a little old.   I had the same complaint  about
>IBM's marketing.   However I put my money where my mouth
>is and have populated every news forum I could find in the last two
>years.   I have written to every editor I could find in the last two years.
>I have affected every person I could on the subject.
>
>Every person on this list knows I'm sincere and ain't lying about that.
>
>I don't know what Bob has done to help the AS/400,   I would
>just like to see some signs of effort on that front.    I noticed you
>didn't give any references to articles or anything in your post though.
>
>All I'm saying is that ,  Talk's cheap.

And I'll say this: action is almost worthless in the AS/400 market. I will 
wager money that despite your efforts, despite Bob Tipton's very 
provocative speech, and despite the endless messages on this list, the web 
forums, and the AS/400 newsgroup, that I have no hope that IBM will do what 
Bob suggested in his speech: turn the AS/400 division loose on the market, 
and have it run by a maniacal, egotistical, charismatic figure that will 
irritate and motivate and succeed (as they do at Apple, Microsoft and Sun).

  ... Chuck

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