Re: Tipton's COMMON opening speech -- MIDRANGE-L

Well maybe it is time that those whose livelihood is the AS/400 put a
stop to the mismarketing. Maybe we should start an add campaign fund,
and appoint Don the head of marketing. 
Would IBM be so shortsighted as to put a stop to a positive third party
marketing campaign. I know that somewhere out there are companies
willing to contribute to such an effort. 

Yeah yeah I am sure IBM would see fit to stop it buncha bozos!

Chuck Lundgren wrote:
> 
> It's defeatist all right. Show me where at COMMON there was a glimmer of
> hope of things changing. IBM figureheads gave all the standard defensive
> responses.
> 
> The fundamental problem is the structure of IBM Rochester, and how it
> splits the AS/400 product development and marketing with Toronto and
> Raleigh and corporate. You might get some folks in those three or four
> facilities to accept your call for change, but they still have to operate
> within the labyrinth of IBM's structure. If you think a committee is a
> dozen bodies with no brain, what do you think dozens of IBM committees can
> accomplish? Until there's a figurehead in Rochester who can cut through the
> noise, leading an AS/400 division that can operate as if it's competing
> with Sun, Microsoft and HP, instead of with Netfinity and S/390, then
> nothing, NOTHING will change, IMHO.
> 
> We've all been complaining about this for YEARS. There's a definition of
> insanity that states that it's "doing the same thing over and over, and
> expecting different results." Just a thought...
> 
>   ... Chuck
> 
> At 08:01 AM 3/20/00 -0500, you wrote:
> ><Action is almost worthless in the AS/400 market>
> >Kinda defeatist isn't it?  Or on the other hand I think I
> >get your point.   Action is worthless but talking isn't huh?
> >
> >I guess from that perspective there's not much to do but
> >write cynical articles about rumors?
> 
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