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Jerry, While it is true that it exists and that it has great function, (Including that of the 8235 and the 2210) there are a few BUT$, 8235 was about $2,500 with Enet or T/R and 8 ports, used standard serial cables, had virtually NO user installed options and was SIMPLE to configure. (Yes there was the memory upgrade a couple versions back and of course the internal modem version but that was about it.) Total cost for 8 ports $312 per port plust modems. 2212 is about $6,500 with no Lan adaptor (+$1,000) and 4 ports(add 4 for $1,300), uses $100 a toss serial cables, has a daunting array of available cards, memory options, even a hard drive option and HAVE YOU USED THE CONFIG PROGRAM? Zowie! That thing requires a P200, 1024x768 screen, 64MB RAM and has more buttons, lists and boxes than carter has little pills! (The 2210 version anyway, I can't imagine the 2212 version being smaller with all it's options) Total cost for 8 ports $1,200 per port plus modems! IBM Is still missing the entry level box that was the beloved 8235! -- Larry Bolhuis | Arbor Solutions, Inc | Two rules to success in life: (616) 451-2500 | 1. Never tell people everything you know. lbolhui@ibm.net | Jeffrey M. Silberberg wrote: > > Larry, > > IBM has now announced a 2212 Access Utility it looks like a great > repplacement box for the 8235 (Yes I have placed alot of 8235's ) and the > 2212 also solves some of the 8235's short comming when you tried to place > ISDN or other "fast" connection interfaces into them. > > Also, the 8235's can be found still in some of the "like new" > programs where the unit has been through rehab. > > JMS > > On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Larry D. Bolhuis wrote: > > > > we use(d) the ibm 8235. then ibm quit selling it last summer. so now >we're trying to decide whether to switch to the shiva lanrover (which it was >with an ibm label) or switch to the perle 833. any ideas anyone? > > > > The last time we compared them head to head, the 833 was more money and >still was missing some > > features the Shiva had. Additionaly some of the features were just out for >one release (always > > makes me nervous) while Shiva has had them for some time. The final straw >was the Perle Sales guy > > had terribly outdated information on the Shiva that he was using in his >comparison-a real turn off. > > (Note that I like and use other Perle products frequently.) > > > > We have been impressed with the Shivas(and 8235s) for some time now and I >have installed many of > > them from 8 serial port to 72 Modem 4-T1 units. > > > > Larry Bolhuis > > Arbor Solutions, Inc > > lbolhui@ibm.net > > +--- > > | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! > > | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. > > | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. > > | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. > > | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: >david@midrange.com > > +--- > > +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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