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  Larry, 

        IBM has now announced a 2212 Access Utility it looks like a great 
repplacement box for the 8235 (Yes I have placed alot of 8235's ) and the 
2212 also solves some of the 8235's short comming when you tried to place 
ISDN or other "fast" connection interfaces into them.  

        Also, the 8235's can be found still in some of the "like new" 
programs where the unit has been through rehab. 

        JMS

On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Larry D. Bolhuis wrote:

> > we use(d) the ibm 8235.  then ibm quit selling it last summer.  so now 
>we're trying to decide whether to switch to the shiva lanrover (which it was 
>with an ibm label) or switch to the perle 833.  any ideas anyone?
> 
> The last time we compared them head to head, the 833 was more money and still 
>was missing some
> features the Shiva had.  Additionaly some of the features were just out for 
>one release (always
> makes me nervous) while Shiva has had them for some time.  The final straw 
>was the Perle Sales guy
> had terribly outdated information on the Shiva that he was using in his 
>comparison-a real turn off.
> (Note that I like and use other Perle products frequently.)
> 
> We have been impressed with the Shivas(and 8235s) for some time now and I 
>have installed many of
> them from 8 serial port to 72 Modem 4-T1 units. 
> 
> Larry Bolhuis
> Arbor Solutions, Inc
> lbolhui@ibm.net
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