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Jon & Booth, I can certainly attest to the difficulty of getting VARPG/CODE up and running in some environments. It took us approximately 100 man hours. We are a ways out in the country ourselves and it is difficult to just bring in a local expert. So we made a lot of inquiries on the phone, and on the code list. Our installation problems were caused by our network configuration. I am no expert in our network configuration but it is easy to understand why problems could occur. I am told that because we had a token ring card in our AS/400 connected to our network through a router that was connected to my box via a gateway, we had to have a router that supported source based routing or use an 802.2 connection between the network and our AS/400. There was also a switch involved somewhere. In the end it was cheapest to buy an ethernet card and go with the 802.2 connection and bypass the router. The latest version of Code/VRPG negates all of that trouble. We can now connect directly with tcp/ip. I think it is now finally ready for the masses, even though it is still a little rough in some NT environments (like ours). The only major complaint I have is with the documentation which is incomplete and about a release behind. VisualAge Java is rough in all environments. Still a baby. I have installed it 4 times, applied 2 or 3 updates and only successfully created 3 programs and a few really basic applets. Mostly that is my inexperience, but it is frustrating to import class libraries and get dozens of errors (even with the CODE/400 Jars) and not have any way of correcting the errors, or even ignore them. But it has promise and really good support through the Usenet groups. I have also had trouble bringing imported visual controls into the graphical editor. In every case I had to start from scratch. Probably more inexperience. Thanks, David Morris >>> <boothm@ibm.net> 05/22 12:37 PM >>> Jon, I'll reply here, for a couple of reasons: 1) I get stuff wrong sometimes, so it'd be better if I say it in the open in case I screwed up again. 2) my point of view may be shared, or not. Others may wish to comment on comments. ----------- About VaRPG: I haven't been able to get it to actually connect yet for a lot of reasons, including the major reason of my not really being a guru of anything, certainly not of AS/400 connectivity. Hopefully the newest evaluation version will work. I just ordered it off the web site a few days ago. It said 3 to 5 weeks for delivery, or some such. Maybe that'll work out ok. About Java... I understood we'd get the enterprise edition with our new box last October, but it never showed up. Are you suggesting that VAJ is something that is easier to start frrom scratch with than is JBuilder? (remember, Jon, we country boys have to start from what is in the package. There's no guy walking around that can answer a few simple questions to get us started.) In <5030200030074883000002L032*@MHS>, on 05/22/98 at 01:47 PM, Jon Paris <paris@ca.ibm.com> said: >>>I guess its back to finding out what we can do with green screens, RPG, >DDS, and CL. >Two comments: First, I'd be interested in knowing what it was about >VisualAge for RPG that "drove you nuts" - private e-mail is fine if you >don't want to go into it here. >Second, why is VisualAge for Java not an option? Just because JBuilder >caused you problems is no reason to think that VAJ would do the same. >You can download the entry version from our website use >www.software.ibm.com/ad/vajava as a starting point. You can also get the >Professional version at about $70 retail at various stores. For serious >AS/400 work you'd want the Enterprise edition which is a lot more >expensive, but these would get you started and you can use the AS/400 >Toolkit with either. >Jon Paris - AS/400 AD Market Support - paris@ca.ibm.com >Phone: (416) 448-4019 - Fax: (416) 448-4414 boothm@ibm.net +--- | This is the Midrange System Mailing List! | To submit a new message, send your mail to MIDRANGE-L@midrange.com. | To subscribe to this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-SUB@midrange.com. | To unsubscribe from this list send email to MIDRANGE-L-UNSUB@midrange.com. | Questions should be directed to the list owner/operator: david@midrange.com +---
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