No it isn't just as checking for credit history for that matter. When Government subsidizes student loans to technical schools obviously behind the current technologies then ask for the money back while the same Government gives grants to companies which hires H1B's there would seem to be a catch 22.
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What a sour view of the world.

It's called getting an education, which no trade school/associate
program will give you. It's an end in itself, not to be measured in how
much money you earn compared to your degreed counterparts.

Kenneth H Werner wrote:
> There is one very good business reason for companies to ask for and
> require a degree. By only hiring people with a degree they can place
> the fault on the "failed, low quality" university the hired attended
> rather than having to look at and face the reality of a problem in their
> selection methodology should the person hired not perform.
>
> I have several degrees and more credits than 8 full years of college all
> worthless unless I can convince you what they are worth. If you are in
> the middle of Death Valley with a bone dry mouth and I have water, I
> can convince you that a cup of my water is worth $50. A degree is like
> a $50 dollar bill. It is worth only as much as I personally believes and
> can convince you it is worth.
>
> Recently rated as one of the top 2 "Best Buy" of regionally accredited
> higher education can be found at tesc.edu, one of the New Jersey state
> colleges. It has no football team, student union building or dorms. It
> has no library. With a qualified faculty, this state college allows and
> has graduated people that in just a few hours a week for less than 1
> year have tested out of 85 percent of the courses for their degree and
> took the other 15 percent on-line at they own pace. A degree does not
> require wasting time sitting through lectures by a professor whose can
> not be understood. Most Americans believe a degree is granted following
> a school attempt to impart knowledge; Thomas Edison (tesc.edu)
> objectively recognizes-acknowledges achieved knowledge.
> Doug Hart wrote:
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>> I'm not sure rules like that a legal. If it is written policy they are
>> possibly open to litigation.
>>
>> I have consulted at companies that claimed they could not hire me
>> because of
>> my lack of a diploma. 1st the reason I was there was because their own,
>> degreed, staff could not do the job. And 2nd I was making more money
>> than
>> any of them. Their policy really didn't bother me.
>>
>>
>> Doug Hart - Principal Consultant
>> IBM iSeries Certified Specialist
>>
>>
>>
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>> Behalf Of Debbie Panco
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>> For us there is a corporate rule that anyone in management MUST have a
>> degree. So, if an IT person wanted to become a programming/systems/
>> operations manager, they couldn't do it. Stops the climbing of the
>> ladder
>> if that is what one wants to do.
>>
>> Debbie Panco
>> Senior Systems Analyst / Project Leader
>> United Consumer Financial Services
>> 865 Bassett Road
>> Westlake, Ohio 44142
>> dpanco@xxxxxxxx<mailto:dpanco@xxxxxxxx>
>> 440-835-6674
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