I agree to a point. when Lou Dobbs first started talking about it he was
un-jaded and forthright he has since been riding the issues as a bit of an
ongoing skit but it doesn't make the senario any less true.
Alex Montalvo
AS/400 Consultant
1(917)442-5450 Cell
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>It scares me to think that people listen to a commentator's views who
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>I agree that corporate greed is the real problem. I worked my way up
from an
>operator trainee on 3 system/38's to be a project leader in the
programmer
>department of my old company I worked at. This after 3 years in fast
food trying
>to do my AA degree at night. I planned to work and retire there, and a
few
>LBO's later, me and 8 others are booted and the headquarters moved.
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>The programming was outsourced too. So I am with Alex. I got lucky, I
work now
>in the insurance industry and this small company is strong. On year 9
now. I
>hope it will last as long as possible.
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>As a father of two sons, I am discouraging them from the computer
field, why
>waste their time in a market constantly shipping jobs overseas? People
who keep
>saying it is a "world economy" and everyone should get with the
program. I say
>they are have lost sight of what it means to be American in
America. Screw
>NAFTA and the United North America crap. That is exactly what it is,
crap.
>When you put another country or $$$ before the patriotism, you have
lost your
>way.
>
>Americans come first, why, because we are in America. Care for your
brothers
>and sisters in this country should come first: "We the People of the
United
>States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice,
insure
>domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the
general
>Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our
Posterity, do
>ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of
America."
>
>Nowhere does it say we have to take jobs from our people [Americans]to
give to
>everyone else and be caretaker for every other backwater country on
this planet.
>Listen to Lou Dobbs on CNN. At least someone represents the middle
class. No
>one else does.
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>God Bless America....
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> I am not prejudiced, I am objective! Should I have substituted
Jewish by
> Williamsburg based? and Eastern Indian by American headdress
challenged? I
> have friends of all nationalities I an American Citizen with
Caribbean
> Spanish descendants. It's the brazenness of the way companies
pursue cheap
> foreign labor that I find insulting.
>
> Headhunters have pulled this time and time again " We have a long
term 1+
> year contract all our consultants stay there longer" then two
months or so
> later you get " due to budget cutbacks were ending your contract in
two
> weeks" that's happened to me at least 4 times while doing
everything they
> asked of me above and beyond most times. But the H1B's stay!
>
> One question is there a way to negotiate a contract without being
fooled
> as to length of the project?
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