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Konrad, That may make sense to an accountant, but it sure doesn't make sense to me! I understand debits, credits, and auditability. Classifying sales types moves it outside the range for an old RPG/COBOL programmer.... :) It's not important, I suppose - I was just curious. Dale Gindlesperger IT Manager/Special Projects Leader Fleetwood Folding Trailers, Inc. Somerset, PA "Konrad Underkofler" To: "MAPICS ERP System Discussion" <mapics-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx> <kdunderk@hoshizak cc: i.com> Subject: RE: Question on MAPICS services Sent by: mapics-l-bounces@m idrange.com 11/10/2003 05:22 PM Please respond to MAPICS ERP System Discussion Dale, Someone may want to pipe up but when we did Essentials I had to ask MAPICS what the financials meant and strangely enough they told me. Now if I can only remember and try to amaze Jeff some more... I think what we know as ALF is a combination of maintenance fee and annual license fee and I would imagine most of it is included under services. Remember they report all three products now and do not split the $$$ so the most tell tale figure is new license fees as to what growth actually is. It would be a little better for us if they split the two items since one is state taxable in Georgia and the other is not. Right now because one is taxable we pay taxes on all of it. I would also assume that most of the added revenue is from folding in the Syteline products since I do not believe it was part of the financials in this quarter last year. Regards Konrad -----Original Message----- From: DaleGindlesperger@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:DaleGindlesperger@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Mon 11/10/2003 11:01 AM To: MAPICS ERP System Discussion Cc: Subject: Question on MAPICS services I'm probably going to feel dumb on this one, but surely someone knows the answer to this..... Did anone see MAPICS' posting of their financial results? They were profitable again (which is good by my reckoning). But the article says: . Year-to-year comparisons of MAPICS's fourth-quarter revenues look promising: License revenue increased 31 percent, to $12.1 million; services revenue increased 55 percent, to $33 million; total revenue increased nearly 48 percent, to $45.1 million. This is an excerpt from a Midrange Systems article, http://www.midrangeserver.com/tfh/tfh111003-story06.html I figure "License revenue" must be new sales and ALFs, but what are "services" as in "services revenue"? What services does MAPICS do? I've been using MAPICS since 1986, and have no idea what this means - but it appears to be 73% of their revenue. I just buy modules, and pay my ALFs. That doesn't qualify as services in my book..... Dale Gindlesperger IT Manager/Special Projects Leader Fleetwood Folding Trailers, Inc. Somerset, PA _______________________________________________ This is the MAPICS ERP System Discussion (MAPICS-L) mailing list To post a message email: MAPICS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/mapics-l or email: MAPICS-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/mapics-l. _______________________________________________ This is the MAPICS ERP System Discussion (MAPICS-L) mailing list To post a message email: MAPICS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options, visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/mapics-l or email: MAPICS-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives at http://archive.midrange.com/mapics-l.
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