Re: Look Mom - No Application Servers

Hi Pete,

At your site there seem to be a problem with the link from
Open Source Tools and Applications for the iSeries can be found  here . 

The link gives:
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 is not available.

Best regards,

Leif


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pete Helgren" <Pete@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Java Programming on and around the iSeries / AS400" 
<java400-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: 15. april 2006 19:28
Subject: Re: Look Mom - No Application Servers


> If  "App Servers = J2EE Containers" then yep, the guy is right on.  In 
> fact, I have come to the conclusion the EJB are essentially an extension 
> of the "Axis of Evil" (which apparently Bush has overlooked so far...)
> 
> I don't see how you could function without some sort of servlet or CGI 
> application behind a web server though.  All of the technologies the 
> Yakov mentions would probably sit behind a web server of some kind. 
> 
> Most of what he mentioned I pulled together in the "Developing SOA 
> Applications using Open Source Tools" at Common last month (you can find 
> it at www.opensource4iseries.com if you are interested).  Specifically 
> the ActiveMQ/MOM/JMS stuff with Derby (JDBC) and a few other 
> technologies (like Axis).
> 
> I still don't see that combination being easy to implement but leaving a 
> J2EE container out of the mix makes life simpler.  My clue that EJB's 
> were evil was when I walked through the JMS tutorial and saw a 15 line 
> Java program (easy to follow) followed by 15 deployment steps that 
> deployed the class to the server.  Made the racing guide gag in the Marx 
> Brothers film "A Day at the Races" look simple.
> 
> Pete Helgren