Re: Look Mom - No Application Servers

[Pete Helgren <Pete@xxxxxxxxxx>]

If  "App Servers = J2EE Containers" then yep, the guy is right on.  In 
fact, I have come to the conclusion the EJB are essentially an extension 
of the "Axis of Evil" (which apparently Bush has overlooked so far...)

I don't see how you could function without some sort of servlet or CGI 
application behind a web server though.  All of the technologies the 
Yakov mentions would probably sit behind a web server of some kind. 

Most of what he mentioned I pulled together in the "Developing SOA 
Applications using Open Source Tools" at Common last month (you can find 
it at www.opensource4iseries.com if you are interested).  Specifically 
the ActiveMQ/MOM/JMS stuff with Derby (JDBC) and a few other 
technologies (like Axis).

I still don't see that combination being easy to implement but leaving a 
J2EE container out of the mix makes life simpler.  My clue that EJB's 
were evil was when I walked through the JMS tutorial and saw a 15 line 
Java program (easy to follow) followed by 15 deployment steps that 
deployed the class to the server.  Made the racing guide gag in the Marx 
Brothers film "A Day at the Races" look simple.

Pete Helgren


Jon Paris wrote:

> Interesting article if you haven't seen it.
> http://java.sys-con.com/read/204697.htm
>
> But then I'm biased because I've always felt that App Servers are total
> overkill for small and medium load systems.
>
> Jon Paris
> Partner400
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