Hi Laura,

It looks like most of your questions were answered. I'll just add a few
thoughts about BRMS and Domino. I would say most people started switching
to using BRMS to back up their Domino servers about 10 years ago. It does
a nice job and if you implement incremental saves you can even get point
in time recovery for your Domino .nsf files. Setting up incremental BRMS
saves is rather tricky so if you want to go that route I'd be happy to
give you some additional advice or documentation that would help. (The
rule of thumb for simple point in time backups and recovery - save the
server twice each night - incremental first, then a full).

A few thoughts about backing up Domino online:

It is very nice that you don't have to bring your server down. However;
It does not save everything. BRMS online saves will save .ns*, .nt*, .box
and .nlo files (if you have implemented DAOS and have a recent BRMS and
Domino level). What is it not saving? the basic config files that
shouldn't change on a regular basis (notes.ini, server.id, ssl cert, etc).
On my systems I take the servers down and do a full save of the data
directory before each Domino upgrade in addition to a year end save.
Other than that, I do not worry about saving the other files because they
should not be changing.

A word of caution that can save you pain that many have experienced: Do
not ever end a BRMS Domino save using the ENDJOB command. It will crash
the Domino server it is currently saving.

Where people run into the most trouble with BRMS and Domino is saves that
touch files that Domino doesn't want you to be locking while it is up and
running. Not saving the Domino data directory (other than in a control
group with the SAVDOMBRM command) is obvious. What isn't so obvious is
some of the other IFS directories. Here is the list of files and
directories you want to be sure to save are not attempted to be saved
while the server is running:

/tmp (note that /tmp does not = /tmp/*. Omitting /tmp/* will not work
as the directory itself should be omitted)
directory containing transaction logs if they are not under the server's
data directory
directory containing view indexes if you are building and storing indexes
outside of the server's data directory

There is a data area available to help you avoid this so reference
[1]http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21404738 if you have
questions and remember that *LNKOMTLTS is your friend.

Good luck with your BRMS configuration!

Amy Hoerle
System Administrator
Think Mutual Bank
5200 Members Pkwy NW, Box 5949
Rochester, MN 55901

507-536-5815 or
800-288-3425 Ext 5815

From: <LRoberts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion <midrange-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 02/05/2014 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: BRMS Backup Strategy and Implementation
Sent by: midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx


Thank you to everyone who gave me some insight in how you are using BRMS.

I am wondering if most people using BRMS are taking advantage of the save
while active and the Lotus Domino feature save while active ?

Does anymore have any pros and cons to using either ? Any things to
out for or issues in restoring ?

We are doing our yearly DR test next month which we have proven successful
in the past, but next year the plan for our DR test is to restore using
BRMS so will be a whole new ball game ......

Thanks again


From: Jerry Draper <midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Midrange Systems Technical Discussion
Date: 03/02/2014 01:49 PM
Subject: Re: BRMS Backup Strategy and Implementation
Sent by: <midrange-l-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

This pretty much sums up our experience as well. I would heartily
endorse the idea of taking Rob's leap of faith in trusting BRMS and
getting rid of any kind of tape naming convention.


On 2/3/2014 11:25 AM, rob@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> First of all I would reinitialize all your tapes and get rid of the
> specific naming strategy. You are no longer looking at that. You
> only look at the BRMS reports and commands like WRKOBJBRM to see what
> holds what. YOU have to take a leap of faith in technology. Would you
> accept it if your users always kept manual inventory cards along with
> computer and relied upon the manual cards instead of the computer? Eat
> your own cooking.
> We load up a weeks worth of tapes. Every morning we take out the
> nights tapes and send those off to Iron Mountain. What comes back we
> store until the Monday load.
> We do have a different save for Monday nights. We retain Mondays for 6
> weeks. The daily's for only 14 days. The quarterly's for 1 year. We
> that up and track that in BRMS. We do NOT use spreadsheets, etc
> which tapes expire when.
> The network data is stored on ALL lpars. Lose one and you still have
> BRMS data.
>>From any system you can do a
> Volume Creation Expiration Move Media Dup
> Serial Status Date Date Location Date Class Sts
> BR0372 *ACT 12/14/13 12/09/14 IRONMTN 12/17/13 ULTRIUM4
> BR0394 *ACT 03/09/13 03/04/14 IRONMTN 05/20/13 ULTRIUM4
> BR0458 *ACT 06/08/13 06/03/14 IRONMTN 06/11/13 ULTRIUM4
> BR0514 *ACT 09/14/13 09/09/14 IRONMTN 09/23/13 ULTRIUM4
> ...
>>From ANY system I can do
> Save Save
> Opt Object Library Type Date Time Volume
> IIM ERPLXF *FILE 3/06/13 17:13:58 BR0363
> IIM ERPLXF *FILE 6/05/13 14:54:47 BR0519
> IIM ERPLXF *FILE 9/11/13 13:43:48 BR0432
> IIM ERPLXF *FILE 12/09/13 17:39:40 BR0329
> IIM ERPLXF *FILE 12/11/13 13:22:39 BR0306
> IIM ERPLXF *FILE 12/16/13 17:39:19 BR0300
> IIM ERPLXF *FILE 12/23/13 17:39:01 BR0407
> IIM ERPLXF *FILE 12/27/13 17:38:50 BR0304
> IIM ERPLXF *FILE 12/30/13 17:39:18 BR0369
> IIM ERPLXF *FILE 12/31/13 17:39:14 BR0313
> ...
> With this kind of tracking available having prefixes indicating which
> holds what has absolutely no value. And it just complicates the hell
> of loading your media library.
> You might really benefit in your situation by having a consultant come
> and help you set this up. They do a pretty good job of getting you to
> think outside of your existing strategy. We used Sirius.
> We also use virtual tapes, (not save files).
> We have one system that we have offsite and we do not want to physically
> handle tapes there. So we use BRMS to save to virtual tape. We FTP the
> tape to a system here. Then we use DUPMEDBRM (notice the BRM suffix?)
> duplicate it to physical tape. And I can still do the appropriate
> WRKOBJBRM and see which tape, virtual or physical, has the object in
> question. If you start trying to work around the system you'll lose all
> that. If you can't handle the FTP scripts and what not IBM has a tool
> that they'll gladly charge you for which will do the same thing for
> virtual tapes.
> I too thought our backup strategy was all oh so unique. And had to do
> sorts of gyrated commands on the media library to get our named tapes to
> work for the right system. And had long strings of CL and RPG programs
> for performing backups. Fought BRMS for years. Now I am a strong
> advocate.
> Rob Berendt

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