MIDRANGE dot COM Mailing List Archive



Home » MIDRANGE-L » January 2013

Re: BRMS - full save with least amount of restricted time



fixed

Doh! (slapping forehead) You're doing it with a single control group. I
was thinking 2 separate control groups with the first restricted.

All I have to do in that CL is start the controlling subsystem, right? Do
you put a delay in that CL to give it some time after the STRSBS is run?
I've still got my "restore system to normal state" program from years ago
when I didn't have BRMS and that's what I did.



On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Jim Oberholtzer <
midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

The control group calls the CLP program via *EXITs. Now just start the
console monitor, submit the BRMS job to *CONSOLE and stand back.

Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


On 1/10/2013 1:57 PM, Jeff Crosby wrote:
Thanks, Jim.

How do you do that with a CL program, when restricted state gets
involved?

What I mean is this. We have the Advanced Job Scheduler, which is used
to
do the restricted state backups. The AJS job command is:

STRBKUBRM CTLGRP(FULLWTHSYS) SBMJOB(*CONSOLE)

Are you saying you replaced that with CALL MYCLPGM and it did it all? As
in that CL program has 2 STRBKUBRM commands in it? That can't be, I
don't
think, because restricted state will kill your CL program. And you're
much
smarter than that so I'm obviously not understanding something.:)






On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Jim Oberholtzer<
midrangel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Jeff,

The main concern with save while active on an *ALLUSR is when you use
any synch point except *LIB. *SYNCLIB and *SYSDFN may take a LONG
time
to reach a synchronization point with all of the libraries on the
system.

If you use *LIB as the save while active synchronization point you
should not have any issues, I do it all the time.

I also use the technique you mention with two control groups, one for
restricted state for what ever is needed there, then bring the system
back up for use and start a save while active on the other libraries.

I use a control language program to do it so I can manage the shut
down
and start up properly.

Jim Oberholtzer
Chief Technical Architect
Agile Technology Architects


On 1/10/2013 1:13 PM, Jeff Crosby wrote:
<snip>
> I read in "Backup Recovery and Media Services
> for OS/400: A Practical Approach" (PDF available here:
> http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg244840.html) that save
while
active
> is strongly discouraged with *ALLUSR. The last update to this
redbook
was
> 2003, so I'm wondering if that's changed. Anyone doing *ALLUSR
save
while
> active?
>
> Another thought I had was to put the *SAVSYS in one control group
> (restricted state), everything else in another control group (not
> restricted), and run them back to back. This might be trickier,
though,
as
> the first control group has to finish before the next one
starts. I
don't
> know if BRMS has that built in or not. Just thought of that
idea while
> writing. Also, since I want everything on a single tape, I need
to make
> sure the 2nd control group doesn't clear the tape.
>
> Suggestions welcome.
</snip>
--
--
This is the Midrange Systems Technical Discussion (MIDRANGE-L) mailing list
To post a message email: MIDRANGE-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
To subscribe, unsubscribe, or change list options,
visit: http://lists.midrange.com/mailman/listinfo/midrange-l
or email: MIDRANGE-L-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Before posting, please take a moment to review the archives
at http://archive.midrange.com/midrange-l.









Return to Archive home page | Return to MIDRANGE.COM home page

This mailing list archive is Copyright 1997-2014 by MIDRANGE dot COM and David Gibbs as a compilation work. Use of the archive is restricted to research of a business or technical nature. Any other uses are prohibited. Full details are available here. If you have questions about this, please contact